I am sceptical of the Skeptics. Is it wrong?

[use_your_brain]

Errr..... practically all of them state as such. Out of curiosity, is the primary criteria for you judging a religion as "true" based off whether or not its scripture says so? If that's the case then you should be believing pretty much every religion as true, including Scientology.

If their own scripture didn't have any assertion or statement that say their religions are true then from where the folk come to believe in and to be convinced that theirs are true? Is it because their priests, imam, vendetta, monks, say so? why would they believe in the such priests instead of relying on the the scripture directly?

 

[Aquitaine]

If their own scripture didn't have any assertion or statement that say their religions are true then from where the folk come to believe in and to be convinced that theirs are true? Is it because their priests, imam, vendetta, monks, say so? why would they believe in the such priests instead of relying on the the scripture directly?

I'm pretty sure that when the scriptures of other faiths talk about the nature of their God/Gods and how their belief systems affects its follwers in the afterlife etc, that they are indeed claiming to be legitimate.

Again, I ask you, does scripture claiming itself to be true make it legitimate? Does you believe Islam is true because the Quran says so?

 

[use_your_brain]

I'm pretty sure that when the scriptures of other faiths talk about the nature of their God/Gods and how their belief systems affects its follwers in the afterlife etc, that they are indeed claiming to be legitimate.

Again, I ask you, does scripture claiming itself to be true make it legitimate? Does you believe Islam is true because the Quran says so?

well all religions believe in the deity and of course they belong to the specific attribution on deity. and their religions depict Him/Her uniquely. Is that legitimate to believe that theirs are true? go figure.

I answer or ask again: from where the followers of religions come to the belief that theirs are true?Is it because they merely think, guess, feel, informed by their grand parents? we have to know this directly from a Christian, a Buddhist, a hindu for instance. Why do they believe that their religions are true.
So far, during my discussion with many followers of religions none of them able to give a strict answer.
WHY DO THEY BELIEVE THEIRS ARE TRUE.

in my case, I do believe that Islam is true because, one thing, and something also, Quran my holybook says so. it is not a joke nor trolling. I do believ that my holy book us true, 100%. And I do therefore believe in all my holy book says.

 

[Aquitaine]

well all religions believe in the deity and of course they belong to the specific attribution on deity. and their religions depict Him/Her uniquely. Is that legitimate to believe that theirs are true? go figure.

I answer or ask again: from where the followers of religions come to the belief that theirs are true?Is it because they merely think, guess, feel, informed by their grand parents? we have to know this directly from a Christian, a Buddhist, a hindu for instance. Why do they believe that their religions are true.
So far, during my discussion with many followers of religions none of them able to give a strict answer.
WHY DO THEY BELIEVE THEIRS ARE TRUE.

in my case, I do believe that Islam is true because, one thing, and something also, Quran my holybook says so. it is not a joke nor trolling. I do believ that my holy book us true, 100%. And I do therefore believe in all my holy book says.

The answer to that will vary from person to person. Some because they were brought up with the religion, some because they interpret the scripture literally, some because they had a "meeting with God" experience etc. The same is true with Muslims.

The Christian Bible claims itself to be the word of God, does that make it so?
So far, you have demonstrated the same circular thinking that I mentioned earleir in the thread - that a religion is true because its scripture says so.

 

[Kirran]

OK, so if we are to assume Islam is true because the Qur'an says so, this assumes the Qur'an is also 100% literally accurate. So why should one assume that to be the case? How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?

 

[Aquitaine]

OK, so if we are to assume Islam is true because the Qur'an says so, this assumes the Qur'an is also 100% literally accurate. So why should one assume that to be the case? How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?

D'uh, it says so right there in the Quran that it's true. . . . .

 

[Kirran]

D'uh, it says so right there in the Quran that it's true. . . . .

Woah, so the Qur'an is true because it says so, and we can trust what it says because it is true? Flawless!

 

[Jumi]

yes, if they were not proven true.

Fact is none are.

 

[Jumi]

well all religions believe in the deity and of course they belong to the specific attribution on deity. and their religions depict Him/Her uniquely. Is that legitimate to believe that theirs are true? go figure.

Some have many deities and some have none, some believe all is god or god is all.

So far, during my discussion with many followers of religions none of them able to give a strict answer.
WHY DO THEY BELIEVE THEIRS ARE TRUE.

in my case, I do believe that Islam is true because, one thing, and something also, Quran my holybook says so. it is not a joke nor trolling. I do believ that my holy book us true, 100%. And I do therefore believe in all my holy book says.

This is exactly how most Christians I meet outside of this forum argue. They believe their faith is true because it's in the Bible and the Bible is their holy book because they believe it's true. All others including yours, they believe are false and lead to hell. You don't want to go to hell, do you?

 

[use_your_brain]

Fact is none are.

yes false religions aren't.

 

[use_your_brain]

Some have many deities and some have none, some believe all is god or god is all.


This is exactly how most Christians I meet outside of this forum argue. They believe their faith is true because it's in the Bible and the Bible is their holy book because they believe it's true. All others including yours, they believe are false and lead to hell. You don't want to go to hell, do you?

well what does the bible say about Christianity? And what does it say about my religion?

 

[Jumi]

yes false religions aren't.

 

[use_your_brain]

OK, so if we are to assume Islam is true because the Qur'an says so, this assumes the Qur'an is also 100% literally accurate. So why should one assume that to be the case? How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?

How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?
By examining it. Whether it has an error thing or not. If Quran had an unscientific facts, wrong history facts, or any error things then Quran is not worth the truth. The same case on all religious scriptures.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

come on.

I think you should spend a year as a Secular Buddhist following the teachings of Stephen Batchelor. That would be a refreshing change for you.

 

[use_your_brain]

The answer to that will vary from person to person. Some because they were brought up with the religion, some because they interpret the scripture literally, some because they had a "meeting with God" experience etc. The same is true with Muslims.

The Christian Bible claims itself to be the word of God, does that make it so?
So far, you have demonstrated the same circular thinking that I mentioned earleir in the thread - that a religion is true because its scripture says so.

WHICH BIBLICAL VERSE THAT CLAIM THE BIBLE IS THE WORD FROM GOD? can you show me that? you can't. so stop playing claim .

 

[Aquitaine]

How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?
By examining it. Whether it has an error thing or not. If Quran had an unscientific facts, wrong history facts, or any error things then Quran is not worth the truth. The same case on all religious scriptures.

What, like when it claims Human sperm comes from the tip of the spine, or that Salt and Fresh water don't mix, or that man was made out of Clay etc?

As for the Bible claiming it is the word of God, try reading it maybe? The whole point of it is that it tells the story and intentions of the Christian God. Genesis talks about the apparent creation of the universe by said God.
What is the first of the Ten Commandments - "Thou shall have no other Gods before me".

 

[Kirran]

How do we prove the truth of the Qur'an?
By examining it. Whether it has an error thing or not. If Quran had an unscientific facts, wrong history facts, or any error things then Quran is not worth the truth. The same case on all religious scriptures.

1) see the errors pointed out by Aquitaine.

2) Seeing as the veracity of theological claims ia rather unverifiable, how would one externally verify whether the Qur'an is in error in that regard?

 

[use_your_brain]

What, like when it claims Human sperm comes from the tip of the spine, or that Salt and Fresh water don't mix, or that man was made out of Clay etc?

As for the Bible claiming it is the word of God, try reading it maybe? The whole point of it is that it tells the story and intentions of the Christian God. Genesis talks about the apparent creation of the universe by said God.
What is the first of the Ten Commandments - "Thou shall have no other Gods before me".

who said that :
- Human sperm comes from the tip and of the spine?
- Salt and Fresh water don't mix?
- man was made out of Clay?

and what does the fact (science) say about them?

 

[use_your_brain]

1) see the errors pointed out by Aquitaine.

2) Seeing as the veracity of theological claims ia rather unverifiable, how would one externally verify whether the Qur'an is in error in that regard?

Good, if anyone ABLE TO DISPROVE the quran then I wont longer believe in Quran. Sound a challenge, isn't it?

 

[Aquitaine]

who said that :
- Human sperm comes from the tip and of the spine?
- Salt and Fresh water don't mix?
- man was made out of Clay?

and what does the fact (science) say about them?

They're said in the Quran and the scientific method has determined such claims to be false.