"I am the way"

[We Never Know]

As has been said again and again - that is your faith and belief - no objective evidence - Samkhya philosophy refutes that completely


That is a child's fairy tale if I ever heard one - and not a very good one at that either

His faith is objective, it can be seen and tested. What he has faith in, i.e. god, the flood, etc are subjective.

 

[ManSinha]

His faith is objective, it can be seen and tested. What he has faith in, i.e. god, the flood, etc are subjective.

And that is exactly what I said to him - no objective evidence that Jesus is god

 

[We Never Know]

Some one needs to tell you, as you do not know a thing about how Jesus can be God

God did physically interact with humans,

As Jesus is the Almighty God.

There is no concept, God did inspired men,
Which is not debatable.

If you can not handle it, that's your problem and not mine.

There is evidence that God physically interact with humans, if you can not handle it, That's your problem and not mine.

Seeing you have blind Faith, not knowing how Jesus can be God.

As God made himself a body,
And incased himself in the body,
So you have Jesus is the Almighty God.

Do you have any physical evidence to support your above post? If you say yes, please present it. If you say no, why do you believe it?

 

[Audie]

Do you have any physical evidence to support your above post? If you say yes, please present it. If you say no, why do you believe it?

I see @Faithofchristian posted this-

There is evidence that God physically interact with humans, if you can not handle it, That's your problem and not mine.

Seeing you have blind Faith..........

I join you in eager anticipation of this physical
evidence.

Keeping in mind that- Mark Twain — 'If it is a miracle any sort of evidence will answer. But if it is a fact, proof is necessary.'

So coz i sez so will do as evidence.

Physical? a leaf blowing in the breeze is physical,
and it is evidence.

 

[Muffled]

I believe that was not what what He was talking about when He said it. That doesn't mean it isn't generally true only that one may not extend that verse beyond what it means.

 

[Muffled]

As a liberal I think that just because Jesus said something doesn’t make it true.

I believe that all those who strive hard with sincerity to do right deeds will win eternal life, and if you don’t imo you have dedicated your life to an unjust God of your own imagination.

I believe he Said I am the Truth. Mat 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.

I believe that is a false belief and I hope you find that out before it is too late.

I believe God is just and has told you the truth. Your unbelief justifies your end.

I believe I go by the Word of God which is not imagination.

 

[Muffled]

I have no problem with what Jesus said in the context of the time he was teaching and his audience. His teachings were the only Way for the audience in the context to the world at the time. He was teaching for the age until that age ended.

Religion evolves from age to age. For example Moses taught the Way for the age he lived. and Biblically Jesus Christ was described like Moses.

I believe it has not ended. No-one has seen Jesus coming in the clouds.

I don't believe in evolution. I do believe in progressive revelation but the B man doesn't have any since his philosophy does not have God as a source.

 

[viole]

From what I see in the scriptures, people who have never heard the gospel or never had a missionary will be judged simply according to the knowledge of God they do have, however limited that may be and their response.

So, the Maya who worshipped the God who required babies sacrifices will be saved?

I ask because we have to presume that the knowledge they had of your brand of God must have been nil.

Ciao

- viole

 

[shunyadragon]

So, the Maya who worshipped the God who required babies sacrifices will be saved?

I ask because we have to presume that the knowledge they had of your brand of God must have been nil.

Ciao

- viole

Human sacrifice existed in almost all ancient cultures, and is even referred to in the Bible. Ancient religious beliefs such as these are not from the Revelations from God, and they are clearly fallible human efforts to appease their image of a vengeful anthropomorphic God.(s).

In virtually all cultures in ancient history the concept of sacrifice evolved to the point of symbolic sacrificial beliefs.

 

[viole]

Human sacrifice existed in almost all ancient cultures, and is even referred to in the Bible. Ancient religious beliefs such as these are not from the Revelations from God, and they are clearly fallible human efforts to appease their image of a vengeful anthropomorphic God.(s).

In virtually all cultures in ancient history the concept of sacrifice evolved to the point of symbolic sacrificial beliefs.

Assuming that the true God, if any exists, is not a vengeful one. I wonder why the idea that God must be good is so popular. Could be very well the contrary.

Ciao

- viole

 

[shunyadragon]

Assuming that the true God, if any exists, is not a vengeful one. I wonder why the idea that God must be good is so popular. Could be very well the contrary.

Ciao

- viole

It is most definitely that the vengeful God is an ancient human construct of an anthropomorphic God. IF God exists God is neither a good God nor Bad God, but simply God, since the value system of good and bad is human construct.

 

[viole]

It is most definitely that the vengeful God is an ancient human construct of an anthropomorphic God. IF God exists God is neither a good God nor Bad God, but simply God, since the value system of good and bad is human construct.

Maybe the concept of God is a human construct, too.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Faithofchristian]

At KJV Psalms 110 Jesus is Not LORD Almighty, but LORD God's Son as being the second Lord.
Plus, I find Jesus believed himself to be Son at John 10:36
God had No beginning according to Psalms 90:2 but according to Revelation 3:14 pre-human Jesus had a beginning.
Thus, pre-human Jesus was Not before the beginning as his God was before the beginning.
Jesus did Not send himself to Earth, rather his God sent Jesus to Earth for us.
Even the resurrected Jesus still thinks he has a God over him as per Revelation 3:12.
God does Not fit the description as found at Colossians 1:15. - Ephesians 3:9
Since God is 'from everlasting to everlasting', then God can Not die, Jesus did die.
Jesus did Not resurrect himself, but his forever-living God resurrected dead Jesus.

Look the flesh body of Jesus died, and not Jesus himself, As Jesus is God can not die.
The flesh and blood body of Jesus died.

 

[Faithofchristian]

No my friend, it is you who do not have a clue as to who the man Jesus, son of Mary and her half-brother Joseph who were both sired by Alexander Helios, also called Heli, really is. As revealed in the scriptures that I have provided.

The Lord said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; "I will raise up for the Israelites a prophet just like him from among their own people, and I will put MY WORDS into his mouth. And he will tell the people everything that I command him to say, and I will punish anyone who does not heed MY WORDS that he shall speak in my name."

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when, concerning the man Jesus, he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

John 5: 24; "Whoever hears my words, (Which were the Words of YHVH/Who I Am, that he commanded the man that he had chosen from among the people, to speak in his name) and believes in “HIM” who sent me, has eternal life.

John 17: 11; HOLY Father! Keep them safe by the power of your name, the name that you gave to me, etc. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Acts 3:19; “Repent then and turn to God, (Not to Jesus, but to God) so that He (God) will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you.” The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by “Who I Am”.

Acts 3:13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus.

Act 17: 31; For he (The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Isaiah 42: 1; The Lord says, "Here is my servant, whom I strengthen---the one I have CHOSEN, with whom I am pleased. I have filled him with my spirit (Which descended upon him in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my beloved in whom I am pleased, TODAY I have become your Father.) and he will bring justice to every nation.

1st Timothy 1:1; “From Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by order of “GOD OUR SAVIOUR” and Christ Jesus “OUR HOPE.”

Jesus admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, who chose him as the one to speak in his name, “Who I Am,” and Jesus says in John 5: 24; “Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in “HIM” who sent me, has eternal life.

John 14: 24; “And the word which you hear is not mine, but ‘THE’ Fathers who sent me. Not “MY Father” but ‘THE’ Father of us all: “Our Father who is in heaven.”

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit=information=words of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove? “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?”

They were the words that Jesus was commanded to say by “Who I Am,” who raised the body of Jesus, the earthly temple, which had been filled with his spirit.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. _________________________It was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who said through his obedient servant Jesus; “Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up.”

Wake up to yourself kiddo, if you want to cast doubt on the Holy Scriptures, go and register with one of them atheist forums.

Wake yourself kiddo,
Jesus is God in flesh and blood body.

It's was Jesus was before Abraham and Moses

John 8:57-58
"Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am"

There you have Jesus was before Abraham was born and Moses.

It still seems you have a hard time in putting things in their proper order of events

 

[Faithofchristian]

As has been said again and again - that is your faith and belief - no objective evidence - Samkhya philosophy refutes that completely


That is a child's fairy tale if I ever heard one - and not a very good one at that either


And I am the one with "blind" faith? That is indeed the pot calling the kettle black - go look in the mirror and read what the other who profess the same deity as you, are saying about your perspectives and beliefs.

You walk blindly, not understanding or knowledge about what the Bible will say or Confirm's.
So you say, that's your problem and not mine

 

[Faithofchristian]

Do you have any physical evidence to support your above post? If you say yes, please present it. If you say no, why do you believe it?

All that I need as my evidence is all within the Bible, if you can't handle that, That's your problem and not mine

 

[ManSinha]

You walk blindly, not understanding or knowledge about what the Bible will say or Confirm's.
So you say, that's your problem and not mine

All that I need as my evidence is all within the Bible, if you can't handle that, That's your problem and not mine

Yeah the book riddled with inconsistencies - that talks about a single pair of progenitors for humans - that cannot square the population without invoking incest - and that accepts the flood myth

Who is deluding whom?

 

[We Never Know]

All that I need as my evidence is all within the Bible, if you can't handle that, That's your problem and not mine

And that is believed on faith, not evidence. IMO it's good you have faith but it shouldn't be promoted as fact.
Your faith can be seen and tested, what you have faith in i.e. god, the great flood, heaven, hell cannot as you admit your only evidence for them comes from a book written by men.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Yeah the book riddled with inconsistencies - that talks about a single pair of progenitors for humans - that cannot square the population without invoking incest - and that accepts the flood myth

Who is deluding whom?

There is no inconsistencies, as you only take things out of their context.

Which flood are you referring to.
As there were two floods, so which are you talking about

 

[Faithofchristian]

And that is believed on faith, not evidence. IMO it's good you have faith but it shouldn't be promoted as fact.
Your faith can be seen and tested, what you have faith in i.e. god, the flood, heaven, hell cannot as you admit your only evidence for them comes from a book written by men.

That's believed on evidence.
Faith is not something that can be tested.

That's like a person having a dream, that the dream can be tested to see if that person dream actually happened
You can't be serious