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I believe in a culturally pure America.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
English is currently the mainstream language for trade, communications and knowledge exchange. In a few centuries it could be Mandarin. Knowing it in general is an advantage regardless of nation-state.

French here is an official language. No one uses it outside Quebec and east Ontario.
True, but it's also beneficial to be multilingual, even native English speakers. I have no idea why Americans generally are so against it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
After my recent trip to China, I would change 'centuries' to 'decades'.
It's too hard for non-native oriental speakers to learn for it to be decades.
I did find a lot of Chinese who were learning English to be able to participate in commerce. But let's face it, neither English nor Chinese is the easiest language to learn.
That claim about English, I pretty much only ever hear it from native English speakers. Those who learned it I typically hear it wasn't that hard to learn.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
True, but it's also beneficial to be multilingual, even native English speakers. I have no idea why Americans generally are so against it.

At a government level or in general? The former can be argued against as per Canada. The basis of having two languages were never for the benefit of the person. It was to pander to Quebec and it's fading culture. Fading internally.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
At a government level or in general? The former can be argued against as per Canada. The basis of having two languages were never for the benefit of the person. It was to pander to Quebec and it's fading culture. Fading internally.
In general. So many Americans are dead-set against it they erroneously believe English is the official language of America. Point it out, and they make appeals to fantasies about how America allegedly at some time being entirely or almost entirely English. The Natives being here first and a constant influx of immigrants from around the world doesn't seem to register in their heads when it comes to thinking their "English only" mindset through to it's logical ends.
 

Vidensia

New Member
In America, I'm guaranteed the Constitutional right to say what I don't like about my government without fear of being executed for that. Needy American Veterans who served honorably in uniform should be at the top of the list for affordable housing and social services benefits. American Vets are a truly entitled class.

Why don't all the foreign handouts from Washington, DC anger people here?

I'm not your enemy. Your hostility should not be directed toward me
but rather Washington, DC. Demand MORE from DC. Much more.
And please drain the swamp this coming November.


Listen to Ray Charles to see what I mean:
As a Canadian, I am unable to assist you by voting in another country’s election. Good luck with your political endeavours.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm mainly angry at my federal government. It seems as older white males and especially Vets get the shaft. My federal government hands things out to foreign humanitarian services worldwide instead of taking care of needy American people first. I would rather my federal government send tax money my way to fix the roads in Oklahoma and the broken streets in Lawton, OK than hand out food to Africa so I can have a nice smooth surface to ride my bicycle on. Where's my automatic housing voucher as a low-income veteran of seven years honorable service to country?

If the stupid Africans, Chinese and Indians would stop making so many babies, there would be no famine in their parts.
Be angry at the government then. Write your representatives. Find the best logical means to tell your story to them and don't stop telling it to them.

People that are trying to live their lives in their own countries have not got you in mind at all. They do not have meetings on how to ruin your life. They are trying to live. Just like you. If what we have here is so great, how can you complain when other people in other countries try to achieve that for themselves where they are?

The entire world should stop wasting resources. Not just Africa, India, and China.

You are still looking to hang your problems on others by demonizing faceless people that have no idea who you are instead of facing those problems and dealing with them in some constructive way.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
Perhaps for commerce. However I think it would take time for translations to Mandarin of our knowledge base to become dominate. The number of Chinese in China is not relevant. It is how widespread the language use becomes. 1 billion speaking Mandarin globally is different than 1 billion nationally.
China builds nothing but crappy consumer products: pure junk.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
As a Canadian, I am unable to assist you by voting in another country’s election. Good luck with your political endeavours.
Well, butt out then. Let only my fellow Americans join this thread. You Canucks worry about whatever Canucks need to worry about.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
In general. So many Americans are dead-set against it they erroneously believe English is the official language of America.


English was still the dominate language of the nation. Keep in mind the nation expanded thus the dominance is restrict to geographic context. Nation not continent. English is the defacto official language via the public education system. There are ESL programs in schools.

Point it out, and they make appeals to fantasies about how America allegedly at some time being entirely or almost entirely English.

Except it was the dominate language. People learned English or had issue functioning outside bubbles that lasted for a generation if that.

The Natives being here first and a constant influx of immigrants from around the world doesn't seem to register in their heads when it comes to thinking their "English only" mindset through to it's logical ends.

English was the dominate language of the nation. Nation not continent. The law and government made English the defacto language.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
English was still the dominate language of the nation. Keep in mind the nation expanded thus the dominance is restrict to geographic context. Nation not continent. English is the defacto official language via the public education system. There are ESL programs in schools.
They believe it is the legally designated official language. Not a defacto language, but something that has legal enforcement. That's how misguided their views can get regarding this matter.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
They believe it is the legally designated official language. Not a defacto language, but something that has legal enforcement. That's how misguided their views can get regarding this matter.

That is just them conflating the issue.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, butt out then. Let only my fellow Americans join this thread. You Canucks worry about whatever Canucks need to worry about.

Sorry, but this is one of the attitudes that will ruin our country. We should be looking to the experiments that have been done around the world for ideas on how to fix our problems. And, in today's world, no country is an island. We are all interconnected.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
China builds nothing but crappy consumer products: pure junk.

While true at one time, it is far less true as time goes on. Now, they are progressing quickly towards the moon, have extensive research programs in several technologies, and have education as a national goal.

While I agree they are still behind in many ways, they are catching up quickly and have passed us in some things.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes. it is good for Americans to look inward when it comes to wasting resources.
I suppose it is good for all of us, but in places that are struggling, I would imagine that they have more immediate concerns and probably not that many resources or they would not be struggling.

Considering that we are superusers of resources, our introspection would have serious impact that would be far reaching.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
True, but it's also beneficial to be multilingual, even native English speakers. I have no idea why Americans generally are so against it.
Everything that reflects American culture and ideals can be expressed through English, or a few Latin phrases as E Pluribus Unum, out of many (thirteen colonies), one (nation).
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
While true at one time, it is far less true as time goes on. Now, they are progressing quickly towards the moon, have extensive research programs in several technologies, and have education as a national goal.

While I agree they are still behind in many ways, they are catching up quickly and have passed us in some things.
How often do you have to take your electric fan apart to oil and clean it? I have to take my two China made fans apart twice a year to grease, oll and clean them each and every time the motors seize and they stop running. If China can't even build an electric fan that will at least last a decade with no maintenance, I'd hate to see the quality of moon vehicles they fancy building. My two China-made fans cost $75 each back in 2010 and 2011 and have the Hunter brand name on them. They are constructed of cheap pot aluminum and some of the screws have stripped and I have had to modify these piles of junk a number of times just to keep them up and running. They are not the same quality as the Hunter American-made ceiling fan/light fixtures of old. The all-metal electric oscillating fans made in America back in the 1930's have lasted 80 years or more without taking apart to fix. They were heavy: cast iron construction. They have a superior lubrication system to keep the motors from seizing. Their housings were filled with oil and factory sealed. Critical mechanical parts are high-grade steel. No cheap pot metals or plastics.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
How often do you have to take your electric fan apart to oil and clean it? I have to take my two China made fans apart twice a year to grease, oll and clean them each and every time the motors seize and they stop running. If China can't even build an electric fan that will at least last a decade with no maintenance, I'd hate to see the quality of moon vehicles they fancy building. My two China-made fans cost $75 each back in 2010 and 2011 and have the Hunter brand name on them. They are constructed of cheap pot aluminum and some of the screws have stripped and I have had to modify these piles of junk a number of times just to keep them up and running. They are not the same quality as the Hunter American-made ceiling fan/light fixtures of old. The all-metal electric oscillating fans made in America back in the 1930's have lasted 80 years or more without taking apart to fix. They were heavy: cast iron construction. They have a superior lubrication system to keep the motors from seizing. Their housings were filled with oil and factory sealed. Critical mechanical parts are high-grade steel. No cheap pot metals or plastics.
Nothing is made as they did before. Everything is made to be low cost and not actually meant to be fixed by homeowners them self. That is not only China products, that is also American products.
 
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