It is a FACT that the Church of Rome tore out the 2nd commandment, changed the 4th and split the 10th. They admit to doing it. So,, I guess you are gonna be tired.
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I believe Satan has brain washed most Christians/people.
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It is a FACT that the Church of Rome tore out the 2nd commandment, changed the 4th and split the 10th. They admit to doing it. So,, I guess you are gonna be tired.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
I showed you the FACTS.
If you looked at the comparison chart of the denominations, and the actual text from Exodus 20, - and translation differences, - these show that ALL of the denominations left things out or split the text, etc.
The Catholic Catechism - which I provided for you - shows that they include - no graven images - with no strange Gods before me.
In other words - no strange gods before me - logically includes those god's images. And they add the whole Exodus text to show this is exactly what they are saying.
SO BULL!
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Your own site shows that they tore out the 2nd commandment. The Catholic Church is decorated with statues of dead Saints,, yet here you are, claiming they uphold the 2nd commandment? They tore it out,,,, that's why they had to split the 10th in half and make two commandments out of it to still have a total of 10 commandments,,,,,,Look at YOUR own chart that YOU sited!
You also failed to address the fact that the 10th Command was split in half. Why not?
And why didn't you explain the fact that they reduced the 4th Commandment (Sabbath) from 94 words to just 8, and they also changed it from the 7th day to the 1st day of the week?
What other Christian religion claims to have the Authority to change the Law of God? Do tell.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe love is a fruit of the Spirit. It automatically comes when a person receives Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Yes love is a fruit of the Spirit, and is that not God? Is that not what I said? When one receives the Holy Spirit, and then begins to obey him, that is when one starts to walk in love.
(Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.
When one has obeyed the Holy Spirit to where he or she are obeying all of God’s Commandments that is when one is loving God. Also that is when God love him or her. Jesus told us that.
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
Obeying all of God’s Commandments is loving our neighbor.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
Look at it in a positive light!
If there are no churches out there teaching what the apostles taught, then the world is ready for one. Start it!!
You seem to know what the apostles taught and you know it's not being done, now, do get to it, and perhaps your shadow will start working verifiable magic like Peter's did.
At least if nobody's offended by that analysis and remark.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe according to you. But for some of us, many of us most likely, what automatically comes is self-loathing, self-hatred, depression, misery, and more cognitive dissonance than can ever be reconciled.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe Smith already tried that and ended up with another church that hasn't got it right.
I believe in following Jesus not apostles. It isn't always the same thing or Jesus would not have had to tell Peter "get behind me satan."
Muffled
Jesus in me
Are you saying this happened when you received Jesus as Lord and Savior?
No God’s Church was started with to original apostles. The Church are those who have heard the Word of our Lord and God and are living that Word.
My Job is just to give the word that God tells me to give.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes. I was miserable as a Christian. The teachings of Christianity had me hating myself, and this manifested itself as hatred towards others. Of course it was always "hate the sin, not the sinner," but in reality because I hated myself I hated the sin and the sinner.
I truly understand what you have posted. For years I tried so hard to live what God as scripture, and the Church told me that I was to live. I tried so hard, and for the first thirty some years I always failed. It made me feel so much like I was evil. I even went to church every day, and prayed to die before ever disobeying Jesus again.
People have forgotten what the Good News truly is. The Good News is that Jesus made it possible for us to never disobey God ever again. Jesus came to defeat Satan/sin.
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
(1 John 3:8) “Whoever lives sinfully belongs to the devil, since thedevilhas been a sinner from the beginning. This was the purpose of the appearing of the Son of God, to undo the work of the devil.”
In my late thirties Jesus gave me his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit/Jesus began to teach me, and also to give me the grace to always obey God.
(Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.
Now I shout it out to everyone who will listen that Jesus made me free from sin.
Truly it is such a disaster that the Church stopped living God’s Word, and in so doing left to fight Satan/sin on just human efforts. Humans are not able to defeat Satan/sin without the grace given to him or her by God.
outhouse
Atheistically
Even if it is wrong?
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
You don't pay attention to what is said - and shown - to you - do you?
ALL - repeat ALL - of the denominations - have split or altered these translations. Such as the very obvious changing of the FIRST COMMANDMENT. Most put the SECOND as the first.
The Catholic church (as I have already pointed out) includes the second in the first as is stated in the catechisms that they TEACH.
So you are just plain wrong.
Since ALL of the OTHERS have also obviously altered these "TRANSLATED" laws, - you are just a case of the kettle calling the pot black.
And by the way - these are translations and as such can be put together differently.
Also, there are multiple areas in Tanakh telling us the laws, - each written slightly differently, - leaving out some things, or adding other info to them.
Perhaps you should read your Bible, - and concentrate on spreading the teachings of love, - rather then attacking your brothers in Christ????
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Would you care to show me,, WHERE the CATHOLIC CHURCH has this phrase in their 10 Commandments?
"You shall not make unto you any graven images."
If you cannot quote this phrase in the Catholic Rendition of the 10 Commandments,,,, it's because you are WRONG!!!!!!
I will wait for you to post it. And I won't be holding my breath. You stand Corrected!
The Catholic Church is HUGE on Idolatry. They pray to dead human sinners. They have decorated their church with statues. They even bow to these statues and kiss them. So,, You stand Corrected,,, Because I already KNOW,you cannot find "Thou shall not make unto you any graven image." in the Catholic Catechism... They TORE it out,, As I first told you. So wise up!
Yes, I know. For a person to find the Catholic Ten Commandments she must link to the Bible on the catechism site. It appears the Catholics do not have their own 10 commandments. If you are sure that they do, would YOU provide the proof for us?
(Luke 6:42) “How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.”
Does your church or do you live the will of the Father in Heaven?
Does your church teach what the apostles taught?
Some of what the apostles taught that most likely your church or you do not teach or live is:
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and woodworms destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.”
I agree with you. And I do not have a church.