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I believe Satan has brain washed most Christians/people.
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outhouse
Atheistically
Sir you have no credibility what so ever to talk down to anyone here.
No,, they tore it out,, and if they didn't,, you could show it in their teaching,,, So quit your BS. You are wrong,, and can't stand being wrong!
They bow before statues of dead saints and pray to them. That is Idolatry!!!!!!! And here you are claiming they included, "you shall not make unto you any graven image" in the phrase "thou shalt have no strange gods"????? lol A strange God would be Baal ,,,,.... Praying to the dead is spiritualism or sorcery,, or necromancy. And when you pray to dead humans,, and they answer,, you can know you are speaking with a demon. So, that is why we are not to pray to dead humans,, that too is Idolatry!
"The fool has said in his heart, there is no God" Psalm 14:1 David's answer to you. I agree.
(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
Not doing the will of the Father in Heaven is sin. So the person not doing God’s will is a sinner, and Jesus call them evil
outhouse
Atheistically
I was wrong about you, and you are very typical
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Again! already gave you the info - including a link. Go back and read it.
They do not prey to saints or others. They ask them to intercede with God for them.
This practice comes directly from the Hebrew.
It is funny that you use the terms "spiritualism or sorcery,, or necromancy." - when your use of these terms come from the Hebrew, - and they did this. They asked dead relatives and special people to pray for them, and petition God, etc.
It also is funny that you don't read the whole text concerning idols. It says you can't make idols of anything.
I'm going to guess you have statues of things around your house, or your kids have dolls, or GI Joes, etc.
Exodus 20:4 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Money seems to be the idol of choice these days.
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Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
That text is talking about a very specific group - not everyday sinners, - which we are told even the followers are.
Read Matthew 6. This is about "hypocrites" in the synagogue, and people who claim to be of God, doing miracles, etc.
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People will believe whatever they want to believe.
One who sins is of the devil. The devil is evil.
(1 John 3:8) “Whoever lives sinfully belongs to the devil, since thedevilhas been a sinner from the beginning. This was the purpose of the appearing of the Son of God, to undo the work of the devil.”
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
Everyone need to ask him or herself why they believe what they do about God. What evidence does one have to confirm his or her beliefs?
Reading some written words that people say is God’s Word is only accepting some people’s word. The Muslims believe their written words, and the Christians say they believe their written words. Most all people just believe because someone told them what they believed.
I personally know from God that Jesus is God, and that the Christian bible is God’s written Word.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
If we took these at face value, rather than as admonitions, all people including Christians - would be of the devil, - as they ALL do wrong.
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You know, when God exiled Satan from Heaven, Satan promised God that he will mislead people until the end of days, in the Islamic belief, that is. It is found in the Quran in Chapter 38, verses 79-83:
He (Satan) said, "My Lord, then reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected." - God: "So you are of those reprieved - Until the Day of the time well-known." - Satan: "By your might, I will surely mislead them all - Except your chosen ones among them."
He (Satan) said, "My Lord, then reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected." - God: "So you are of those reprieved - Until the Day of the time well-known." - Satan: "By your might, I will surely mislead them all - Except your chosen ones among them."
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is as it should be. It becomes a much bigger problem when you start thinking that you are really ok.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe true Christians can't be misled because we have the truth in us.
If so, then they would be among the "your chosen ones among them" in the verses above, those whom Satan can't mislead.
McBell
Unbound
So there is no such thing as a "true Christian"...
Got it.
A true Christian is a Spiritual Christian. A Spiritual Christian is always led by the Holy Spirit/Jesus. A Spirituals Christian is given evidence of God’s presence. A Spiritual Christian walks in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and will be called out by his or her name, by Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
(Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
A true Christian is a temple of God. Anyone destroying God’s temple will be destroyed by God.
A Spiritual Christian is a child of God’s, and will always obey God’s will.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
There is only one way to know if one walks in the truth or not. Jesus Christ will give that person evidence of his presence, and the fruits of following Jesus are good. Sin is rotten fruit, and it lets one know he or she are following Satan. No matter what one believes if he or she deliberately disobeys God’s Commandments/the Holy Spirit, they are following the devil.
McBell
Unbound
Thank you for further demonstrating my point.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And by "context," you mean completely taking what I said out of context. You don't need a building to have a church because a building is just a building and it is the congregation coming together in fellowship that makes a church. Again, you can ask any priest/pastor you want, and that is what they will tell you.
When I say miserable, I mean wishing I could just die, to fall asleep and never wake up. When I say hateful, I mean I was a judgmental, spiteful, and angry. Christianity was poisoning me, and it took several years of being away from it to heal from the toxic indoctrination I was subjected to.
outhouse
Atheistically
There is no such thing.
outhouse
Atheistically
I never stated differently.
One person is not an assembly, and assembly is a gathering, plural
2 people and you would have something.