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I believe Satan has brain washed most Christians/people.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is extremely likely that you have not a clue as to how deep my pain ran. To be told that you, the very core and essence of who you are, are an abomination, and to be reminded of it. You probably are oblivious to know what it's like to not just be told you're an abomination, but to have that reinforced by others who affirm that you and some others are an abomination.
If you are being led by the Holy Spirit, and are living God’s Commandments you have a church. The Church that Jesus established is all those who are keeping God’s Commandments.
Lay it down, and ask Jesus to heal you.
Thank you. I understand.
outhouse
Atheistically
No, factually one does not have a church.
But thanks for perverting the definitions way out of context to meet your personal desires, no matter how far it strays from the truth.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I did, and he didn't.
I think he is using the modern English word church for ecclesia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesia
Yet. Have you ever read, "he who has endured to the end will be saved"?
If you go on your way to the hospital for a cure but turn back before you get there can the doctors cure you?
A Church does not need to be a building, or a human organization. Jesus knows who it is that makes up his Church. Jesus said he would call out his own by name, and they would follow him. Those who are following Jesus are the Church.
(John 10:1-5)"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."
outhouse
Atheistically
Probably so.
outhouse
Atheistically
Jesus never said no such thing that we know.
The word used by people that never knew or met Jesus was assembly, not individual
If one is not living God’s Commandments then he or she is not even known by Jesus. So how can God’s Church be made up of sinners? Sinners are not living the will of the Father in Heaven.
(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
outhouse
Atheistically
There are no such things.
All laws or theology ever written were by man alone, ancient Israelites who often Plagiarized other laws.
Most of the laws you know already existed in literature almost exactly as written in biblical text
Ya, um, we kind of don't need you opinion to know if we live different from your personal requirements, we factually are not evil.
Did I call anyone evil? Jesus said those who do not do the will of the Father in heaven are evil. I don’t know if you sin or not do I? How then can I call you evil?
Sinners don’t know Jesus and he does not know them. So sinners can’t be God’s Church.
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
outhouse
Atheistically
You highlighted in red, text that implied that.
It even that was out of context to the conversation.
Your apologetic rhetoric is fine for you to believe and have faith in. But it only applies to you.
Where you might be getting into trouble is trying to imply it relates to everyone else's reality, it does not.
No satan has brainwashed me, because it is mythology to me.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
You appear to be having problems understanding what is written to you.
I told you they consider - idol - to be included in - No strange Gods before me. And that is exactly what their teaching show! - I gave you a link to the catechism - teaching!
And I note you just ignore - where I pointed out that laws are given in different places in the Bible - and NOT always in the same order, etc.
And that the MAJORITY of your Christian denominations - do not post the actual FIRST COMMANDMENT of Exodus 20, as the first law!
This makes ALL of them changing the commandments!
Thus the stupidity of the Pot calling the Kettle black!
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Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Actually, the church is the congregation. The building is just a building. It is those who come together in fellowship to worship God who make up a church. You can ask just about any pastor or priest this, and they will tell you pretty much that a building is a building, a church is the people.
As I said, you don't know my pains nor my struggles, nor could you possibly begin to understand or comprehend them. You also do not know the venomous toxins I was subjected to, and spewing out to the world because I was a miserable, lost, hopeless, stupid wretch.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
AGAIN - obviously you are having a hard time reading and understanding what is provided to you.
Those links give the information about those commandments, and one of them includes this TRUTH -
"2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. the present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. the Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.
In other words - YOUR particular denomination's way of placing, or wording the commandments, - are NOT necessarily correct!
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