That would be YOU adding to it. You are adding meaning. Aren't you?
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I have another question for YOU to ignore
- Thread starter savagewind
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It is right to be a disciple always and for everyone. Matthew 28:19
No... Strong was a Greek scholar. Do you know Hebrew? Is there another definition? Or are you only going by the English translation?
But you haven't answered my question...
Just exactly what is the point that you want to get across?
I am trying to SAY that what they believe isn't what God says.
Does it matter? Apparently not.
God says that a person who is for The Christ must have a conscience for him AND for the people who will join themselves to him. If a lie is involved, it won't be him that they join.
It isn't true that Jesus commanded anyone to make people into disciples of him. It is a lie.
But, it is in the Bible. So, anyone who is for the Bible is for the lies in it.
If the lies were on purpose, they are for the ones who changed it.
If the lies were not on purpose but were just mistakes then they are for torturing people.
Torture? Yes. If I made a mistake and people shoved my mistake into anyone, that would be my torture.
Maybe you would not care that your mistake led people away from the truth. I do care.
What are you taking about?
YOU say the scripture means that "people out of" nations should be made into disciples.
I say I am to be a disciple in every nation in which I might go. I haven't added meaning to it.
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"OK... we got the point... but why are we making so much emphasis on this?
No, God says you do not get it. Is God wrong?
Is this the point that you wanted to make?
Savage wind... there is no continuity between what I am asking and what you are replying.
I do not know. I suppose I have more points than that one.
I think you are asking what is my point?
I do not know if I have a point. I can see that the Bible is wrong in places. I can see that nobody but me cares about that. I might call that no point.
YOUR point is that the Bible can not be wrong. I call that point very sharp and dangerous.
If the Bible was copied wrong, for whatever reason, IT will mislead people. It HAS misled people.
That is my "point". Does my point cause fear? How, please?
That is my "point". Does my point cause fear? How, please?
Not only do they trust that the Bible can not be wrong, some of them teach that you need to know it for your salvation. That belief having been let loose can do A LOT of damage.
Yes... that has been my point.
I don't see any place in the Bible that will lead someone astray. Certainly your discipleship point won't lead anyone astray.
After being born-again for over 30 years... that's the first I have ever heard of that
If someone was by the will of God for HOME but read that it is God's will that she make disciples, to obey she will leave her home. Not misled?
By the way, that it is believed Jesus says to be making disciples for which church is it to be done for?
Also, how does anyone know who was commanded to do it? Only the eleven, no twelve (counting our dear friend Paul)? If it was only for them why is it written for all of us?
Also, how does anyone know who was commanded to do it? Only the eleven, no twelve (counting our dear friend Paul)? If it was only for them why is it written for all of us?
If Matthew 28:19 was spoken my way, it is easy to obey. Just do it!
If Matthew 28:19 was spoken YOUR way, then what, who, when, where, why and most especially HOW?
If Matthew 28:19 was spoken YOUR way, then what, who, when, where, why and most especially HOW?
If you make disciples at home... you are obeying the command because your home is part of all nations. The Holy Spirit will tell each person where they are supposed to teach others.
And all the while, acting like a disciple.
And you can't just take one scripture and not balance it with the rest of scripture. That is like a blind man hugging a elephant trunk and thinking he knows what an elephant looks like.