I have deep hatred for Homosexuality & Lesbianism

[psychoslice]

So we are in agreement then, Australia is barbaric and cruel to those who fall victim to these criminals.

Don't try to manipulate me, take a good look at your own barbaric and cruel religion, why do you think so many Muslims want to come to Australia, so they don't have to live under such cruel laws fearing everything they do.

 

[David1967]

Fair enough about the invasion. But as for capital punishment, is the US any more barbaric, backward and outdated than Germany, France and the UK who do not implement capital punishment? Because the feeling and attitude I got from the last few posts by you and others is that Islam is evil because of what it deems a crime and the punishment it offers.

Ok. Let me be very clear. I never said Islam is evil nor do I believe that it is. I was merely saying that in this day and time public lashing is barbaric. By comparison in the old testament in the Christian bible the ancient Jews advocated stoning fornicators but we dont do that today. I apologize if I gave you the impression that I was implying islam in and of itself is evil. That was not my intent. I was only addressing the from of punishment.

 

[Deathbydefault]

Muslims willingly accept Islamic laws. There is no subjugation involved. That's why under an Islamic state (not ISIS/ISIL) non-Muslims live autonomously under Islamic rule because our laws do not apply to them apart from certain minor details.

I realize that, it's why I used the word "accept".
Are you telling me Islamic law does not subjugate it's followers?

 

[Gharib]

Don't try to manipulate me, take a good look at your own barbaric and cruel religion, why do you think so many Muslims want to come to Australia, so they don't have to live under such cruel laws fearing everything they do.

Right, so how many of those Muslims that come to Australia abandon their religion. Do you have a number to show me?

And the reason why so many people leave is because of the barbaric and unjust killings your country commit in their lands. They are and should leave a war zone where a criminal comes there and simply drops a bomb not caring who is below. Don't you agree? And if you do not agree, and think that it's OK to go to a foreign country and just drop bombs there because of ISIS and it's fighters, why doesn't the Australian government drop a bomb on those it deems terrorist and as working with ISIS on Australian soil, why not bomb such a persons house but instead they go there having carefully planed everything so as to prevent deaths and capture the perpetrator.

 

[psychoslice]

Right, so how many of those Muslims that come to Australia abandon their religion. Do you have a number to show me?

And the reason why so many people leave is because of the barbaric and unjust killings your country commit in their lands. They are and should leave a war zone where a criminal comes there and simply drops a bomb not caring who is below. Don't you agree? And if you do not agree, and think that it's OK to go to a foreign country and just drop bombs there because of ISIS and it's fighters, why doesn't the Australian government drop a bomb on those it deems terrorist and as working with ISIS on Australian soil, why not bomb such a persons house but instead they go there having carefully planed everything so as to prevent deaths and capture the perpetrator.

Sadly the innocent always dies in any war, your not doing much at all to get rid of this ISIS cancer, so someone has to drop the bomb.

 

[Gharib]

Ok. Let me be very clear. I never said Islam is evil nor do I believe that it is. I was merely saying that in this day and time public lashing is barbaric. By comparison in the old testament in the Christian bible the ancient Jews advocated stoning fornicators but we dont do that today. I apologize if I gave you the impression that I was implying islam in and of itself is evil. That was not my intent. I was only addressing the from of punishment.

I apologize, that was a mistake on my part. I didn't mean Islam as a faith, although that's how I seem to have written it. I meant what you mean, this specific law. So again, we have a great number of countries conforming to the same ideology (secularism) yet one of them implements capital punishment. How can that be if they are meant to be the same. If capital punishment is such a heinous crime for so many countries and doesn't conform to their modern secular views, why is it the opposite for the US.

Basically I am trying to say that although you see no place for public lashing as an acceptable form of punishment, it doesn't mean that it is so.

 

[Gharib]

Sadly the innocent always dies in any war, your not doing much at all to get rid of this ISIS cancer, so someone has to drop the bomb.

Yes, the innocent Muslims whose lives are not worth as much as those innocent non-Muslims of Australia or UK or US. Like I said, why doesn't Australia bomb the house in which a terrorist resides in? Why didn't France bomb the apartment building in which the Paris attackers where hiding in, but instead it cleared the area and went to capture them.

 

[Gharib]

I realize that, it's why I used the word "accept".
Are you telling me Islamic law does not subjugate it's followers?

No more so than any other country does it's citizens who break the law. Otherwise no it doesn't subjugate us. Do you mean this as a general terms and in all and every detail of daily life or for punishments for a crime.

 

[David1967]

I apologize, that was a mistake on my part. I didn't mean Islam as a faith, although that's how I seem to have written it. I if eant what you mean, this specific law. So again, we have a great number of countries conforming to the same ideology (secularism) yet one of them implements capital punishment. How can that be if they are meant to be the same. If capital punishment is such a heinous crime for so many countries and doesn't conform to their modern secular views, why is it the opposite for the US.

Basically I am trying to say that although you see no place for public lashing as an acceptable form of punishment, it doesn't mean that it is so.

Gharib I just really believe that we as humanity need to move beyond these violent forms of punishment. And as I stated before, I am not an advocate of death penalty even If my country allows it. But in time I think we will get rid of it.

 

[David1967]

I apologize, that was a mistake on myif part. I didn't mean Islam as a faith, although that's how I seem to have written it. I meant what you mean, this specific law. So again, we have a great number of countries conforming to the same ideology (secularism) yet one of them implements capital punishment. How can that be if they are meant to be the same. If capital punishment is such a heinous crime for so many countries and doesn't conform to their modern secular views, why is it the opposite for the US.

Basically I am trying to say that although you see no place for public lashing as an acceptable form of punishment, it doesn't mean that it is so.

I had a friend pose the question of capital punishment to me this way: He asked me If I was the one who had to administer the lethal injection to a death row inmate could I. The answer is no. Nor could I take up a whip and beat someone with it. To me it would take a piece of my humanity away and I would never do such. Put a person in jail is acceptable punishment for a crime.

 

[Deathbydefault]

No more so than any other country does it's citizens who break the law. Otherwise no it doesn't subjugate us. Do you mean this as a general terms and in all and every detail of daily life or for punishments for a crime.

I mean it in the sense of you being subject to your God and his will.
I feel the same about about all theistic religions in general.

"Subjugation is accepted only by those weak to themselves."
I didn't use it as a shot at Islam, it was directed towards all overseer Gods.
Though it's understandable that it may have not come off that way in my post.

 

[Deathbydefault]

I actually may have pulled that quote from a follower of the left hand path.
Memory issues pursue me today...

 

[psychoslice]

Yes, the innocent Muslims whose lives are not worth as much as those innocent non-Muslims of Australia or UK or US. Like I said, why doesn't Australia bomb the house in which a terrorist resides in? Why didn't France bomb the apartment building in which the Paris attackers where hiding in, but instead it cleared the area and went to capture them.

I don't really know, maybe your land many harbor the enemy, so you wouldn't know exactly where they were, its a whole different story, not as easy as you make it.

 

[Skwim]

u kidding me

Iam the most straight guy that perhaps ever walked on earth.

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

It just that i hate people sinning and going against nature.

No, it's more than that. You also said you have homophobia, you fear homosexuals. Besides, if you hate people who sin I assume you also hate liars, the disobedient, the unholy, the profane
Source: 1 Timothy 1:9-10

and the unrighteousness, the envious, the whisperers, the proud, those disobedient to their parents, those without natural affection, the implacable
Source:Romans 1:26-32.

So, you also hate people who lie, those who whisper, and those who happen to be proud of an accomplishment. Considering this short list alone means you hate just about everyone on Earth.

 

[ShivaFan]

The odds that your own child could be homosexual or lesbian is much higher than you think (assuming you reproduce). Would you hate your own child?

I know, you probably think that such is "self-adopted" rather than "born that way". But what you do not understand is, neither is it self-adopted nor born that way. Mother of the World, nature if you will, convinces those few to be that way, but she carries a "big stick".

For example, some men like women's high heeled shoes, are fetish about it. Would one say such a man was "born with a gene that drives him to go gaa gaa over a lady's high heeled shoe?" ... I mean, think about it, high heeled shoes (as far as I know) didn't exist back in the days of Gilgamesh or Homer.

So how do you explain?

But if you study this stuff, you find that such a man, though impossible to find the "high heeled shoe gene" in him, I mean this fetish is way more than just "brainwashed" into the guy, he is pretty much on automatic mode even if high heeled shoes did not exist 2000 years ago.

So it is like, he or she was INDIRECTLY born that way, sort of predestined if you will, AND he or she also was "influenced" to be that way, but no way can it be denied.

I mean, if it were as simple as only something like "brainwashing" then that discounts the power of predestination. But could you say you were "brainwashed" to be a hetro? Of course not.

The answer is inbetween.

It doesn't matter if some "it" is found only in a few. For some reason, beyond your understanding, mother nature has this broad clockwork going on, yes "influence" also plays a part, and She has this complex clockwork in the make in a much more broader scale that DOES influence things and way more powerful than some address from the President of the United States. .... you may not understand, I mean how do birds know how to migrate? Some birds do not migrate if you will, they may be a minority. Does that make them "evil"?

No. Nor is there a "simple human explanation". Nothing is simple.

I know, you will say God decided. But nature and this Mother is also God. in fact, if there is a Mono-God, She has to be a women in singular, the other Gods are men (or eunuchs).

So there is nothing to hate in this regard. I mean, look at the American Right-Wing. Are they talking about homosexuals in context of the 2016 election?

The answer is no. It is not an issue. Islamic terrorism and the economy are the issues. Actually, other than a small minority of Christians or Muslims, no one in the conservative wing or the right-wing give a rat about this "issue" and so many have children who are homosexual, it doesn't matter to them as an "issue".

There is no such "issue" anymore. In fact, even when it was an issue, it was never really an issue. Why?

Because they are everywhere. I can tell you among the top Right-Wing stars, they are there. And everyone knows. And zero care what their "orientation" is, none, zero. They are Republican and Democrat, Muslim or Hindu, nice or not so nice, honest or criminals. On and on. They are everywhere.

So no one cares about this "issue".

For whatever reason beyond your understanding, Mother Nature has a reason. She decided. They may be a minority. But maybe something they know may save the entire world when that day comes. Often, it is the smallest of minority where comes the Answer just in time when it is needed.

More are understanding this. That it is critical to our OWN survival. Yes, some such as in somes circles as Islamic extremism do not yet understand. It is to their own peril and survival.

 

[vaguelyhumanoid]

For fornication? It is 100 lashes in public and exile for a year from the town/city/province. But not to worry, this only applies to Muslims, who accept this as a just form of punishment if they ever fall into this crime/sin.

That's still a fvcking awful way to organize a society.

I have deep hatred for Salafism & Wahhabism.

 

[Deathbydefault]

The odds that your own child could be homosexual or lesbian is much higher than you think (assuming you reproduce). Would you hate your own child?

I would rather prefer my daughter to be a lesbian when she is older, so I can pin her future relationships on her mother...

 

[EtuMalku]

What's the punishment for pedophilia ... Becoming a Phrophet?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

For fornication? It is 100 lashes in public and exile for a year from the town/city/province. But not to worry, this only applies to Muslims, who accept this as a just form of punishment if they ever fall into this crime/sin.

That's really disgusting and savage. If a person does wrong, why not just repent to God for it and do your best to make it right? I don't want to hate or hold disdain towards Islam, but I'm finding it very hard not to when I see this sort of ****.

 

[bain-druie]

My daughter is a lesbian; I knew she was since she was about six years old. Anyone who calls her 'disgusting' and hates her arouses my wrath as a mother. Good for you, being honest about your bigotry; so long as you expect the consequences of it to come crashing down on your hideously hateful hide.

Anyone who hates an entire group of people for their identity is unworthy of respect or regard. I do not hate Muslims, but I do hate any person who hates my child for being who she is.