Other communities are also violent, just that they don't have the guts to stand up to what they believe is right. Muslims have honor.
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I have to be honest, Islam freaks me out
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Other communities are also violent, just that they don't have the guts to stand up to what they believe is right. Muslims have honor.
People tell me it's really unsafe to walk around Footscray at night. Apparently the crime rate is really high. That might explain the man's nervousness.
I don't think that violence is honourable.
The expressions I see on the faces in the news tell me that rage trumps honor.
Acting in consistence with violent goals =/= honor.
Consistency isn't always a good thing, in my opinion. The article in the OP contains a case in point.
I don't think it is possible to stereotype any group of people who's numbers are reaching several billion.
I know what I see on TV and what I see with my own two eyes tells a different story.
I know what I see on TV and what I see with my own two eyes tells a different story.
Other communities are peaceful? Hmm....
Not everywhere in the world. I am fearful for my own country.
jasonwill2
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It can be if for the right reasons.
I think this is because the violent groups, even if small in number, are more noticeable, so more focus is put on them in the media. Most media outlets don't have a reason to mention the peaceful Muslims; they aren't as "interesting" as the violent ones are when it comes to media coverage.
apophenia
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So I've heard. And yes, there was a murder in the park where I just walked ( a Chinese surgeon, highly respected in Melbourne, beaten to death by white punks on dope).
I try not to let that stuff change me. It is very strange to realise that I may be seen as a threat. I only feel threatened by the 'bullet-headed saxon mother's sons' (to quote John Lennon). Only white punks have ever threatened me. So far. Fingers crossed.
I am conducting my very own very personal revolution. I cross the lines. I remember one night when I was withdrawing money from a teller machine here in Footscray. There was a bunch of young Sudanese men sitting nearby. They started to talk to me while I was withdrawing the money, and I realised that they assumed I would be scared of them, and they were kind of playing with me. I played right back, and made some comedy banter that let them know I was supposed to be scared, but I felt no threat from them. They were instantly very chilled and friendly, mostly relieved that someone didn't think they were demons. I've lived in some very dangerous places, so generally I can read body language, and I don't react or get edgy for nothing. The thing was, they felt happy to be recognised as the ordinary human beings they were. It must be horrible to be seen as a threat for no good reason.
Ethnic groups have always been the butt of ridicule and stereotypes. And while most of them swallow their pride and ignore it, Muslims are now saying enough is enough. And that scares people.
Yeh, that would suck. I feel bad for them and hope that things will change for the better in the near future.
Erebus
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I don't much care for Islam itself in the same way I don't much care for Christianity. My values and beliefs are largely at odds with theirs. However, I'm reluctant to say anything too sweeping since I've met plenty of Muslims of all streaks. Some only socialize with other Muslims, some are anti-Christian or anti-West, some are so friendly and welcoming I actually feel a bit awkward 
I'm fine with Muslims so long as they're fine with me. Same goes for anybody else regardless of religion or culture.
I'm fine with Muslims so long as they're fine with me. Same goes for anybody else regardless of religion or culture.
Standing up for yourself is fine and good. But doing so using violence and threats is not justifiable, at least not when you have the option of doing so peacefully.
No offense, but it is easy for you to say because you have your white privilege intact, never been made to feel like an outcaste (as most Muslim immigrants do). Since you're not in their position, do you really believe you have any moral right to comment?
Some breaking news.....
News from The Associated Press
Feds question filmmaker for possible probation violation.
News from The Associated Press
Feds question filmmaker for possible probation violation.
that's why people in other communities never voice their opinion or protest against something they don't like
By killing innocent people, attacking foreign embassies and demanding the beheading of someone purely for making a film and expressing his views? Very honourable
BBC News - US ambassador to Libya 'killed in Benghazi attack'
New attacks on embassies in wake of anti-Islamic film | World news | The Guardian
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apophenia
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There is some truth to what you say. It is also true that some muslims truly believe that any 'kaffirs' who show disrespect to Islam should rightfully be killed. A few of them were arrested here a few days ago, and a weapons cache siezed.
You don't agree with that I hope.
I'm sure most muslims in Australia would not agree with that. Certainly not the ones who came to Australia for refuge from clan and sect based violence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A few bad apples. And let's not forget the atrocities of other countries, which has probably resulted in this Islamic outrage to begin with.