I just want to sin!!!

[Sheldon]

Lust is the act of imaging having sex with another. Its something that we do with our minds, its not something that "happens to us".

Unless we get lucky.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Apparently not.

The remedy to that, per the suggestion of jesus, is apparently biological modification. So I guess the question is, if gene editing allows the gene that causes the 'negative drive' to be cut from the body, then (a) is that ethical and (b), would christians be for it, in order to be in possible accordance with matthew 5:29

 

[robocop (actually)]

The heathen have to develop their own, internalized morality. They have to think about morality; consider effects and consequences of actions.
The religious have their morality handed to them. They don't need to think about it or wonder why such and such an action is right or wrong. Their morality is only incidentally connected to consequences.

Internal skeleton vs external crutches -- which would you expect to be more robust?

The more realistic the crutch the better it does.
What counts is having a broken heart and a contrite spirit.

 

[MyM]

I didn’t ask if you who you worship, I asked you what you would think of a Prophet of God who receives the worship of men?
Also, if all the prophets are good then when Jesus said only God is good then what?

lol I rest my case. Jesus said, only God is good...he didn't want people to worship him.

Messengers are given the revelation. Abraham-suhuf, Moses-Torah, David-Zaboor(Psalms), Jesus the Injeel (gospel), and Mohammmad the last of the messages was the Quran. They were holy men. We know in Islam that they were chosen by God so who are we as ordinary people to question God's wisdom in his choices?

I believe that a person who worships a prophet of God is on the wrong track and not given God the right to be worshipped. God created jinn and mankind to worship him. God created man and jinn to worship him alone and no one else deserves such recognition. In Islam, No prophet of God claimed they were God.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Or phrased differently :

One need not be a Christian to "please God". And to please God...well that seems to lead to Heaven, hence "non Christians" also can make it "to Heaven" it seems to me

If you die not knowing about Christianity, you can convert after death if you would have accepted had you known about it.

We do baptisms for the dead.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Repeating the false dichotomy fallacy doesn't make it rational, you would have to offer something beyond bare assertion for your claim. In logic it is also fallacious to assert that a claim or belief is true until it is disproved, that is called an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.

Saying a comment is a false dichotomy doesn’t make it one. Which in the conversation you entered into there were just 2 choices. Jesus is God or He is just a man.
In your case you are just coming across as a troll.

 

[ppp]

Lust is the act of imaging having sex with another. Its something that we do with our minds, its not something that "happens to us".

So according to you, if I see someone and become aroused, but don't actually think about the act of having sex then I am not lusting? That is quite the loophole.

 

[ElishaElijah]

lol I rest my case. Jesus said, only God is good...he didn't want people to worship him.

Messengers are given the revelation. Abraham-suhuf, Moses-Torah, David-Zaboor(Psalms), Jesus the Injeel (gospel), and Mohammmad the last of the messages was the Quran. They were holy men. We know in Islam that they were chosen by God so who are we as ordinary people to question God's wisdom in his choices?

I believe that a person who worships a prophet of God is on the wrong track and not given God the right to be worshipped. God created jinn and mankind to worship him. God created man and jinn to worship him alone and no one else deserves such recognition. In Islam, No prophet of God claimed they were God.

You’re contradicting yourself but good talking to you. Rest my case.
Jesus is and was worshipped, He didn’t stop people but received it. This demonstrates what about Him?
He is God

 

[ppp]

The remedy to that, per the suggestion of jesus, is apparently biological modification. So I guess the question is, if gene editing allows the gene that causes the 'negative drive' to be cut from the body, then (a) is that ethical and (b), would christians be for it, in order to be in possible accordance with matthew 5:29

Ooooo. When that movement starts someone's going to find this post and call you their prophet.

 

[ppp]

If you die not knowing about Christianity, you can convert after death if you would have accepted had you known about it.

We do baptisms for the dead.

Got to love religions that perform involuntary rituals on people. At least you aren't doing virgin sacrifices.

Are you?

 

[MyM]

You’re contradicting yourself but good talking to you. Rest my case.
Jesus is and was worshipped, He didn’t stop people but received it. This demonstrates what about Him?
He is God

umm I am not contradicting myself. Jesus brought one message and not to all of mankind even. If Jesus was worshipped, you cannot blame the messenger lol...remember that Paul guy? The one that made the ascension by his own confession?

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

So who is he referring to? the jews? or those who do things in the name of jesus?

But then again, many christians don't believe in the laws and commandments since they said jesus died for them so doesn't really matter.

God does not die.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Ooooo. When that movement starts someone's going to find this post and call you their prophet.

I'm no prophet. I'm just a bored guy laying here letting my mind wander.. too cold to go out, and I scuffed up my heel from an old shoe. But I guess if those conditions weren't met, I wouldn't have made the weirdest post of the month

 

[robocop (actually)]

Got to love religions that perform involuntary rituals on people. At least you aren't doing virgin sacrifices.

Are you?

Not involuntary; the person still has to choose whether or not to accept the baptism.

 

[ppp]

I'm no prophet. I'm just a bored guy laying here letting my mind wander.. too cold to go out, and I scuffed up my heel from an old shoe. But I guess if those conditions weren't met, I wouldn't have made the weirdest post of the month

I read a book about 10 years ago where people were cloning their own tissue, preparing meals from it and having dinner. Even though they were eating together, they were only eating the meat that came from their own bodies.

The police were trying to figure out if they should arrest them, or even could arrest them. And what for exactly?

 

[ppp]

Not involuntary; the person still has to choose whether or not to accept the baptism.

If you dunk me in water and then tell me that my baptism is voluntary because I don't have to accept it, then I am going to laugh at you when I charge you with assault.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I read a book about 10 years ago where people were cloning their own tissue, preparing meals from it and having dinner. Even though they were eating together, they were only eating the meat that came from their own bodies.

The police were trying to figure out if they should arrest them, or even could arrest them. And what for exactly?

That's pretty different. Well, I guess it is cannibalism isn't it.. or auto-cannibalism, or meta-auto-cannibalism, as technically, it seems the meat is 'beyond' who/what they are, yet simultaneously is what they are. Pretty gross

 

[Colt]

So according to you, if I see someone and become aroused, but don't actually think about the act of having sex then I am not lusting? That is quite the loophole.

If you become aroused then you were lusting, you were undressing that person already. Anyway you decided to turn your back on God which is a far bigger issue than lust.

 

[ppp]

That's pretty different. Well, I guess it is cannibalism isn't it.. or auto-cannibalism, or meta-auto-cannibalism, as technically, it seems the meat is 'beyond' who/what they are, yet simultaneously is what they are. Pretty gross

Yep. That is pretty much how the discussion in the book went. The main character kept getting distracted by the the prosecutor nibbling on his own cuticle. It was a funny and icky scene.

 

[InChrist]

I remember a Catholic friend, in elementary school, who went on shoplifting sprees after school. He explained it was all right 'cause he went to confession on Sundays and was forgiven.

I’d say that person was a hypocrite. It’s easy to be a hypocrite with religion, not easy when one belongs to Jesus Christ; loves Him, is thankful for His saving grace, and desires to live a life that pleases Him.

 

[ppp]

If you become aroused then you were lusting, you were undressing that person already.

People get aroused without ever getting to thinking about the person naked. You know that, right? The involuntary dilation of one's pupils from seeing someone's attractive face is an early stage of arousal. You have a non-realistic view of how human bodies work.

Anyway you decided to turn your back on God which is a far bigger issue than lust.

No. I have never made any such decision.