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I see no value in atheism

leibowde84

Veteran Member
We are just discussing your desire for sham absolute confidence by asserting good and evil as fact. That is why you come up with science possibly destroying opinion, but not come up with religion possibly destroying fact.
"Desire for sham"? What does that mean? How would you know my desires?
 
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leibowde84

Veteran Member
That's weird, because I accept evolution and yet I am not a social Darwinist. Guess you're wrong, then.
I think he is happier living in his delusion where all atheists, materialists, evolutionists, etc. all think exactly the same way and have exactly the same beliefs. Tragic really.

Not to mention the disrespectful tones, but what are ya gonna do.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
Of course I can't. According to you he's not doing anything wrong. He's just of a different opinion than I am.

Is complete nonsense. Somebody making the opinion something is good does not preclude you from making the opinion it is evil.

All just drugtaking on your part, there is no argument whatsoever.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
Nope. I didn't. How'd that happen?

You too reject subjectivity I remember.

Making for this general atmosphere on the forum, where anything established on a subjective basis is attacked as wrong, because it is not objectivity.

Objectivity get's a free pass, because all religionists also accept objectivity, besides accepting subjectivity But evolutionists do not accept subjectivity. They deny freedom is real, and they demand evidence in regards to questions about what the agency of a decision is. There is no atmosphere of safeguarded freedom of opinion, there is attack of any opinion to try to replace it with fact.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
You too reject subjectivity I remember.

Making for this general atmosphere on the forum, where anything established on a subjective basis is attacked as wrong, because it is not objectivity.

Objectivity get's a free pass, because all religionists also accept objectivity, besides accepting subjectivity But evolutionists do not accept subjectivity. They deny freedom is real, and they demand evidence in regards to questions about what the agency of a decision is. There is no atmosphere of safeguarded freedom of opinion, there is attack of any opinion to try to replace it with fact.
I agree, subjective truths can exist, they are just often incorrect or misleading. Also they don't do much good for anyone but yourself.
 

Monk Of Reason

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You too reject subjectivity I remember.

Making for this general atmosphere on the forum, where anything established on a subjective basis is attacked as wrong, because it is not objectivity.

Objectivity get's a free pass, because all religionists also accept objectivity, besides accepting subjectivity But evolutionists do not accept subjectivity. They deny freedom is real, and they demand evidence in regards to questions about what the agency of a decision is. There is no atmosphere of safeguarded freedom of opinion, there is attack of any opinion to try to replace it with fact.
You said if you accept evolution you reject subjectivity. I haven't rejected subjectivity. You say I have. And now you state that if I reject subjectivity I must be a social Darwinist. I am highly against social dawinism as I am the opposite which is a secular humanist. For this to be your logic must be faulty somewhere. My guess is ...everywhere.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
I already explained that before how I reached the conclusion. You go read what I wrote before to you.
You did a terrible job, merely providing vague insults to my character and failing to provide a single specific example. Please provide reasoning for your erroneous assumption so I can point out why you are mistaken.
 
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