I Support The Truckers

[SomeRandom]

You obviously don't know any truckers. It's not that simple.

My father was a trucker. I actually grew up around truckers and tradies. Not that it matters. I’m not Canadian and can only go by what the news reports. And the news reports indicate that the majority are not only already vaxxed, but actively dislike the convoy for impeding them and taking away focus from the actual issues they face.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I support the trucker protesters. They're protesting against a despotic government that wants to impose vaccine mandates and take away their freedoms for not complying with a forced medical procedure. Most of what has been reported about them is false, and they have been demonised by the media. I see RF doesn't broadly support them either. Maybe folks are afraid to say.

But I support them. It seems, according to the media I follow, many others support them too. Many of them are vaccinated, but for me this isn't about vaccination; this is about standing up to forced medical tyranny. They are the good guys imo and are doing Canada a favour. Some in the US have joined them.

I believe the way the Canadian government is treating them is horrible, and now threatening to take away their pets. Seriously? Freezing bank accounts and taking away people's animals is something the CCP would do, not liberal Western democracies.

These folks aren't Nazis, they're not Confederates; they're protesting for their freedoms back. Freedoms we had until 2020 that were completely normal to everyone.

Now you see why this is happening. The common Canadian is like the common American, you can recognize government tyranny whenever it rears its ugly face and its showing its true colors now.

I'd be surprised if Canada holds its place on the freedom index in the foreseeable future.

I hope the truckers win the day.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Mandates have existed in many countries for decades. I couldn’t go to school without my childhood vaccinations. (With exceptions for medical and religious reasons.)
Now it’s a problem all of a sudden?

It's a problem when mandates now eagerly destroy businesses and people's livelihoods with extreme prejudice.

Therin lays the difference.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Mandates have existed in many countries for decades. I couldn’t go to school without my childhood vaccinations. (With exceptions for medical and religious reasons.)
Now it’s a problem all of a sudden?

Since religious exemptions have been implemented, it's a big deal.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Imposing health and safety measures = despotism?
Do you deny the utility of these mandates? Are you anarchist, who regards all rules as illegitimate?

Doesn't living in a coöperative society necessitate some deference to the interests and welfare of your neighbors?

Welfare. Ugh..don't make me laugh.

It's been a moderately lethal virus all along and nowhere as lethal as it is at present.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ya Socialist, ya.

So you give me <funny> frubals, eh.
You think I'm funny...like a clown?
Whaddaya mean by that?
I'm funny how?
I amuse you?
I'm here to amuse you?

Read the above as Joe Pesci would.

 

[Sand Dancer]

So you give me <funny> frubals, eh.
You think I'm funny...like a clown?
Whaddaya mean by that?
I'm funny how?
I amuse you?
I'm here to amuse you?


Read the above as Joe Pesci would.

He has more hair.

I'll do ya one better:

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Not if you have to quarantine everytime you haul something across the border and lose a week of work every time.

It's 2 weeks, not 1, but that would only be if they were allowed to cross in the first place: the US doesn't allow unvaccinated Canadian truckers and vice versa.

... but the minor inconvenience I was talking about was getting vaccinated.

 

[stvdv]

Welfare. Ugh..don't make me laugh.

It's been a moderately lethal virus all along and nowhere as lethal as it is at present.

I would not call it a "moderately lethal virus"

 

[stvdv]

Mandates have existed in many countries for decades.)

True

Now it’s a problem all of a sudden?

I would say:
1)Covid like viruses have existed for ages
2)Now it's a problem all of a sudden?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Now you see why this is happening. The common Canadian is like the common American, you can recognize government tyranny whenever it rears its ugly face and its showing its true colors now.

How about if we can come up with the money for you to take a trip to China and Russia you'll go? This way you can see what tyranny actually looks like. As a bonus we'll throw in a tour of Africa and the Middle East, let you see a handful countries where you can witness what repression really looks like and how it effects people.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I would say:
1)Covid like viruses have existed for ages
2)Now it's a problem all of a sudden?

Generally when a society is faced with a deadly and contagious virus they go into "lockdown mode." Some restrictions history has seen have been so restrictive that you can't even leave your house. One village even agreed that no one must leave the village to contain the spread of a plague. Some of this happened in what we call the "dark ages," but they better understood our actions and choices and decisions do not exist in an isolated bubble.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Welfare. Ugh..don't make me laugh.

It's been a moderately lethal virus all along and nowhere as lethal as it is at present.

It's up there with cancer and heart disease. And that's just the cases that end with death. There's scores of other cases that end with chronic illness.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Generally when a society is faced with a deadly and contagious virus they go into "lockdown mode." Some restrictions history has seen have been so restrictive that you can't even leave your house. One village even agreed that no one must leave the village to contain the spread of a plague. Some of this happened in what we call the "dark ages," but they better understood our actions and choices and decisions do not exist in an isolated bubble.

I'm sort of curious on if you really think these two things are apt for comparison: the societal / biological containment of covid, vs. the societal / biological containment of the bubonic plague. I haven't read about the black plague in a while, but I think I remember something about people getting covered in massive sores, and maybe getting disfigured by it somehow, as well. Something tells me that the effects of the black plague were more ostensible, and, I suppose, it probably was more upfront in terms of lethality.

So the question I had, was how would a dark ages era population react to covid, in place of the black plague? Would they fold in with the general instability of their mortality due to other factors, general to the time, taking it more in stride, or would they start breaking out the bird beaks

 

[amorphous_constellation]

It's up there with cancer and heart disease. And that's just the cases that end with death. There's scores of other cases that end with chronic illness.

So are those two things, things you think can also be controlled? I work across from a gas station, obviously frequented by many who work on the road. So in that gas station, there are 3 aisles full of chips. A coffee aisle featuring two machines for the sugariest concoctions you can a imagine, with syrups and a cream machine. An ice cream shake machine. All the soda you can imagine..

So what is the view on that? You studied psychology, right? Does all that junk food lower the cortisol, so then the guy can drive a couple hundred miles easier? Or is the junk food just decimating the person's body unnecessarily. Or, is it a necessary trade-off. I remember when I had to drive stuff around for the farm, it helped to have a big bag of cheese curls near

 

[Estro Felino]

Then you're against the protesters? The Canadian people are overwhelmingly against the occupation and border blockades:

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Blockade Backlash: Three-in-four Canadians tell convoy protesters, ‘Go Home Now’ - Angus Reid Institute

It deals with people who make an economy function perfectly.
Because any economy depends on the trasportation of goods.
From a country to another.
From a city to another.
So they deserve respect...and Trudeau le Beau doit les respecter.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sort of curious on if you really think these two things are apt for comparison: the societal / biological containment of covid, vs. the societal / biological containment of the bubonic plague. I haven't read about the black plague in a while, but I think I remember something about people getting covered in massive sores, and maybe getting disfigured by it somehow, as well. Something tells me that the effects of the black plague were more ostensible, and, I suppose, it probably was more upfront in terms of lethality.

So the question I had, was how would a dark ages era population react to covid, in place of the black plague? Would they fold in with the general instability of their mortality due to other factors, general to the time, taking it more in stride, or would they start breaking out the bird beaks

They'd probably still have the plague masks and cities would probably still have shut down. It's super contagious, it kills a lot of people, and especially back then if the disease doesn't outright kill you the chronic illness would likely lead to an ultimate death anyways.

So are those two things, things you think can also be controlled?

You can't give heart disease to another, and unless you do something like blowing smoke in someone's face you aren't going to give them cancer either.

So what is the view on that? You studied psychology, right? Does all that junk food lower the cortisol, so then the guy can drive a couple hundred miles easier? Or is the junk food just decimating the person's body unnecessarily. Or, is it a necessary trade-off. I remember when I had to drive stuff around for the farm, it helped to have a big bag of cheese curls near

I haven't been able to find much on this. Junk food isn't good for the body, but I'm very aware of "something" going on with the body during extended periods of driving (I had issues with low blood sugar while driving for a company where I was on call 24/7). I don't know what this something is or why it happens, but I do know gas stations aren't the best places for foods and drinks to help manage it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It deals with people who make an economy function perfectly.
Because any economy depends on the trasportation of goods.
From a country to another.
From a city to another.
So they deserve respect...and Trudeau le Beau doit les respecter.

The adult tantrums of anti-democratic pinheads who demand the government meet their demands or resign and be replaced by those chosen by those making the demands deserve no respect.
Selfish bungholes who can't be arsed to be considerate of others--especially during a pendemic--deserve no respect.
Good riddance and do let the door boot you on the way out as it clears room for someone who has a baseline understanding that with freedom in an organized society comes responsibilities of living in an organized society.
And don't forget how hard your own country was hit with covid. That's what this "freedom 'for others to die' convey" would get in the end for Canada if they got their way (except fortunately Canadians in general seem to have a better sense of right from wrong regarding this issue).

 

[Spirit of Light]

So you give me <funny> frubals, eh.
You think I'm funny...like a clown?
Whaddaya mean by that?
I'm funny how?
I amuse you?
I'm here to amuse you?

Read the above as Joe Pesci would.

Vely vely funny...

 

[RestlessSoul]

Don’t they have railways in Canada and the USA? Why are they moving so much freight by road, when rail is so much cleaner and more efficient?