IDF publishes unedited footage showing Hamas equipment in al-Shifa hospital

[Revoltingest]

what is reality to you is a lie to others. People buying into the lies are much like ostriches wearing blinders and then putting their heads in the sand.

I recommend more honesty & less prejudice.

 

[rosends]

I recommend more honesty & less prejudice.

Me too! Good luck!

 

[Sargonski]

And I answered about them. Now if you would like a separate, theologically based discussion of why there was the biblical injunction then that would be great. This is a subforum for political discussions. Let me know when you want to discuss theology in a religion sub-space.

If you claim something that is wrong, then you are going to be told you are wrong.

Upon God's command, there was substantial violence. So?

And to you, that makes them all actual Gods? I can say "Fred is a God" and you would consider him a God? Wow. You are a massive polytheist.

There is only one God. Remember, I'm a monotheist, not a polytheist.

So you don't understand the idea of monotheism. Got it.

The small oversight is not relevant Rose -- it matters not to Ethnic Cleansing if the Amalak live in towns - villages- or tent city .. which you could call a town in any case ... and King Sihon's people lived in Towns .. so use that example if you have an issue with the Amalek not living in towns. It matters not -- as the actions of Israel against both Amalak and the towns of King Sihon were Ethnic Cleansing .. a fact you inadvertently admitted .. which made your initial claim about no ethnic cleansing wrong .. shedding doubts on your claim to be an expert Judaism.

After which you exclaim "You don't understand the idea of monotheism" Of course I understand Rose .. Monotheism is the belief in only one God. .. What you don't seem to understand is that the Israelites were not Monotheists .. nor was Abraham, which is why I asked you which of the Gods is it that you belief is the Only One ?

So ..good that you have come to understand Ethnic Cleansing .. something you figure was justified back in the good old days because the Amalak and other cleansed peoples were "Evil". I find this hard to accept given the collective punishment .. slaughtering children babies and fetuses for the sins of others - but each to his/her own

I believe you when you claim to believe only in one God .. and this is perfectly fine. What is the name of this One God in which you believe .. is it the God of "Slaughter the children for the sins of others" .. or is it the God of "Don't slaughter the children for the sins of others."

and if you think they are the same God ... what is the name of that God ?

 

[rosends]

The small oversight is not relevant Rose -- it matters not to Ethnic Cleansing if the Amalak live in towns - villages- or tent city .. which you could call a town in any case

Sure it matters. It means you don't know what you are talking about.

... and King Sihon's people lived in Towns .. so use that example if you have an issue with the Amalek not living in towns. It matters not -- as the actions of Israel against both Amalak and the towns of King Sihon were Ethnic Cleansing .. a fact you inadvertently admitted .. which made your initial claim about no ethnic cleansing wrong .. shedding doubts on your claim to be an expert Judaism.

These were the dictates of God, making this a theological discussion. I have asked if you want to start a thread to discuss the theological implications of divine commandments, and the morality question, but you seem reluctant to. Why?

After which you exclaim "You don't understand the idea of monotheism" Of course I understand Rose .. Monotheism is the belief in only one God. .. What you don't seem to understand is that the Israelites were not Monotheists .. nor was Abraham, which is why I asked you which of the Gods is it that you belief is the Only One ?

Whether or not you think the biblical Israelites were monotheists isn't relevant. You asked ME and I said " I'm a monotheist, not a polytheist" so your question about "which God" makes no sense to me.

So ..good that you have come to understand Ethnic Cleansing .. something you figure was justified back in the good old days because the Amalak and other cleansed peoples were "Evil".

I don't recall saying that. That was a value statement made by God. If you have a problem with that, talk to God.

I find this hard to accept given the collective punishment .. slaughtering children babies and fetuses for the sins of others - but each to his/her own

So you have a problem with the bible. Big deal.

I believe you when you claim to believe only in one God .. and this is perfectly fine. What is the name of this One God in which you believe

God doesn't have a private/personal name.

.. is it the God of "Slaughter the children for the sins of others" .. or is it the God of "Don't slaughter the children for the sins of others."

and if you think they are the same God ... what is the name of that God ?

there is only one God and can you show me the biblical source for "Don't slaughter the children for the sins of others"? My text doesn't have "slaughter" in it.

 

[Sargonski]

Sure it matters. It means you don't know what you are talking about.

These were the dictates of God, making this a theological discussion. I have asked if you want to start a thread to discuss the theological implications of divine commandments, and the morality question, but you seem reluctant to. Why?

Whether or not you think the biblical Israelites were monotheists isn't relevant. You asked ME and I said " I'm a monotheist, not a polytheist" so your question about "which God" makes no sense to me.

I don't recall saying that. That was a value statement made by God. If you have a problem with that, talk to God.

So you have a problem with the bible. Big deal.

God doesn't have a private/personal name.

there is only one God and can you show me the biblical source for "Don't slaughter the children for the sins of others"? My text doesn't have "slaughter" in it.

You never asked me to have such discussion .. and it turns out I know what I am talking about far more than you .. so wrong again friend .. and I was not the one professing to be an expert in Judaism.. and whether we call a Tent City a town or village has absolutely no relevance to whether or not it was Ethnic Cleansing .. and you have agreed it was Ethnic Cleansing anyway .. so you can let the town-Tent City dillema go.

Of course I have a problem with things in the Bible such as Child Sacrifice -- That such things to you is No big deal ideologically or theologically .. speaking of theological implictions of Divine Commands .. as you were requestiong ... is your cross to bear.

"God doesn't have a Personal Name" .. .. You mean "Your God" -- and how did you come to find this out ... Did this God sit with you for Tea? .... What name do you use for this God .. if not the personal name given .. and what is the name of the God that Resided in Solomon's Temple .. literally .. the Place Where God's name Resides. ---

how can you discuss theological implications of some God's commands .. if we don't know the name of the God whose commands you are referring to ..

So which command would you like to discuss the theological implications of -- I started out with Child Sacrifice ..unto Lord YHWH .. Which command would you like to discuss .. and from which God does this command come ?

 

[David1967]

Is this footage as reliable as the claim of beheaded children?

Did that actually happen, or have they dropped that?

 

[Bthoth]

Really? Post 406 " israel uses US to make sure egypt blocked it up completely". And you now say that this claim of yours isn't saying that "Israel controls American policy"? Wow.

No israel will never control US. But like the 10/6 begs for our support.

My claim is very clear.

Weird. You insist that it is the "consensus view" of the international community. Is Eugene Kontorvich part of that community? He helped draft 242. Or maybe he doesn't count because he disagrees with you

What the hell?

The Majority as represented by the UN have condemned the illegal occupation. No matter which resolution is drafted.

israeli_settlements_are_not_illegal

yes they are. But you dont like having to be honest before israeli/the dross opinion.

How can there be "Palestinian territory" if there was never a sovereign "Palestine"?

Because the palestinian terroitory existed with palestinians on the property before any state called israel, even existed.

Hey, if you would let 1000+ of your friends get killed by a surprise invasion and then just sit on your hands, then that's great. You do you. Countries often go to war because of attacks on them.

Gibberish of wanton writing. How about, the 1000's of palestinians in israelis prisons and the hundreds of 1000's that were uprooted by the illegal occupation.

be glad the muslims are patient and that eventually justice will prevail.

Still, no apartheid.

Sure, apartheid is what you expect and approve of and why you cannot stop the bias.

Even within your own head.

Like unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza (again) and leaving a strong infrastructure. Your welcome. I mean, it isn't Israel's fault that Arabs came in and ruined it

Looters strip Gaza greenhouses

Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.

www.nbcnews.com

Quit the bigotry approach. Arabs are not evil human beings. End that style of labeling.

Arabs means nomads by definition. Not a race, not a religion and most definitely not terrorist.

So just stop the bigotry style of labeling.

So now that you are shown your mistake, you just jump to a different claim. Way to abandon your errors.

What error? Be specific or stop the wanton labeling and abusive posture.

Please look up the Rome Statute and try to find a way that it applies to a situation in which it applies to the citizens of Israel (besides the laws that favor Arabs).

The rome statue is what many condemnations are about.

israel is an apartheid dividing people based on prejudice. Exactly what you are doing by calling people arabs.

The nomads claiming that israel is there's by diapora are the very same label............arab (NOMADS).

That bias that you continue is getting old and rude.

 

[Revoltingest]

Did that actually happen, or have they dropped that?

It appears to be an unsupported, albeit highly popular claim.

Were Israeli Babies Beheaded by Hamas Militants During Attack on Kfar Aza?

Here's what we know about the viral rumor spread by news media, the U.S president, and so on.

www.snopes.com

 

[Bthoth]

You speak for mankind now? LOL!

Far more humbly that you ever will or could

well, you could reduce the instances by responding to what I wrote to YOU, not to someone else. Unless you are using 2 handles...

Correct, I should ignor you. You have written some horrible thing about mankind and the expectation that mankind accepts your opinion.

How does that contradict anything? The text says not to forget what the text relates, so I don't forget it. What does that contradict?

No the dialogue says do not forget. Nothing about 'the text'. What you are doing it trying to witness what you did not experience or see.

By rule a 'false witness'..............

Where do I claim to know?

you just did. claiming to remember what you never witnessed

Not "Naksa" -- that is something very different.

Naksa is the dividing of the population that perfects the term apartheid

but you do not see it that way because you expect capitulation.

You really need to be more careful when you type

NO. I need to ignore your propaganda

Because the biblical text, specifically, the story of Sha'ul and Agag says so. Don't you know the bible?

The stories of bible do not control or rule mankind.

get over it.

The claim is being made that Jews are doing something along the lines of what was done to Amalek

NO.... you continue to demote Jews and condemn them. Israel DOES NOT represent the Jew.

The moderation should put you in check for trying to condemn Jews for what israel is doing.

Just as you must stop condemning arabs as being bad, just for being against israel.

or in some way connected to that and it isn't true. You want me to sit here while make uninformed and offensive misrepresentations of both the bible and current events? No thanks. I'll call out the mistakes.

The mistake is you believe that you have the right to support an apartheid, oppression and the condemnation of Jews as a defense of the corrupt (israel)

that is certainly your belief.

My belief is eventually the truth will unveil and you will be found abusive to say the least.

 

[Bthoth]

Not sure why you are going on about Trump .. the Fauci Lies and suppression of lab leak hypothesis has nothing to do with everybody's favorite pinata ?

What does mexican paper mache have to do with the conversation?

nor does Trump have anything to do the lies told by the Blue team about the Vax and Covid.

What is blue team? Are you crazied up by political party? Trump funded a 3.5 trillion dollar expense for covid

Trump had nothing to do with the big Transmission prevention lie -

I know, trump had no idea about the science. He is too ignorant to learn beyond business.

- or the censorship of Social media.

He should have been shut down well before his own children cut him loose.

It wasn't Trump who sent the spooks over to Facebook on a mission.

What's a spook?

This walk down authoritarian lane was with Biden not Trump

Biden did not try to incite violence over losing an election; but trump did.

-- Forced medical Treatment

Forced? The US population wanted the vaccine because it saved lives. Just like polio.

Trump just funded the businesses that could make money over it. He never cared about US.

.. justified on the basis of a lie .. your body no longer your choice ..

Roe vs wade, was over turned to address that

storm troopers are on the way if you try to protest these violations and illegitimacy of authority -

Correct, the troops stopped the treason. Otherwise a tyrant would have murdered his own vice president for being American.

anyone dissenting from the party line .. "up against the wall" - get ready for the GITMO treatment.

Please.... party politics are for morons. "We the people' are far better than just following a party.

Not saying Trump would mind .. but this is the doing of Biden Blue and the woke team in cancel mode .. canceling the Rule of Law .. and a whole bunch of other stuff..

The rule of law was roe vs wade, but the corrupt put judges in place to overturn the US population from having a choice.

Unfortunately the Transmission trope was a big lie .. one used to justify .. big violations of liberty and apple pie ..

Covid killed many because the ignorant could not drink chlorine like trump wanted.

 

[rosends]

You never asked me to have such discussion

Post 482: "Now if you would like a separate, theologically based discussion of why there was the biblical injunction then that would be great. This is a subforum for political discussions. Let me know when you want to discuss theology in a religion sub-space."

.. and it turns out I know what I am talking about far more than you

Clearly you don't. You didn't even remember that I brought the discussion up in 482.

.. so wrong again friend .. and I was not the one professing to be an expert in Judaism.. and whether we call a Tent City a town or village has absolutely no relevance to whether or not it was Ethnic Cleansing

But if it shows you don't know the bible, that makes other things you say about the bible suspect.

.. and you have agreed it was Ethnic Cleansing anyway .. so you can let the town-Tent City dillema go.

And you have admitted that you made a mistake so you should drop it.

Of course I have a problem with things in the Bible such as Child Sacrifice -- That such things to you is No big deal ideologically or theologically .. speaking of theological implictions of Divine Commands .. as you were requestiong ... is your cross to bear.

I notice you are imputing feelings to me now "to you is No big deal". Do you always tell other people how they feel?

"God doesn't have a Personal Name" .. .. You mean "Your God"

No. God. Remember, I'm a monotheist. You really should write stuff if you forget so easily.

-- and how did you come to find this out ... Did this God sit with you for Tea?

Absolutely!

.... What name do you use for this God .. if not the personal name given .. and what is the name of the God that Resided in Solomon's Temple .. literally .. the Place Where God's name Resides. ---

How does a "name reside". You are using a really bad translation from the Hebrew. Names don't reside.

how can you discuss theological implications of some God's commands .. if we don't know the name of the God whose commands you are referring to ..

You need to know a name to discuss ideas? Just say "God."

So which command would you like to discuss the theological implications of -- I started out with Child Sacrifice ..unto Lord YHWH .. Which command would you like to discuss .. and from which God does this command come ?

I can give you all sorts of resources if you start a thread which asks about the moral implications of divine commands.

 

[Sargonski]

Post 482: "Now if you would like a separate, theologically based discussion of why there was the biblical injunction then that would be great. This is a subforum for political discussions. Let me know when you want to discuss theology in a religion sub-space."

Clearly you don't. You didn't even remember that I brought the discussion up in 482.

But if it shows you don't know the bible, that makes other things you say about the bible suspect.

And you have admitted that you made a mistake so you should drop it.

I notice you are imputing feelings to me now "to you is No big deal". Do you always tell other people how they feel?

No. God. Remember, I'm a monotheist. You really should write stuff if you forget so easily.

Absolutely!

How does a "name reside". You are using a really bad translation from the Hebrew. Names don't reside.

You need to know a name to discuss ideas? Just say "God."

I can give you all sorts of resources if you start a thread which asks about the moral implications of divine commands.

We have been discussing the relationship between religion and ethnic cleansing .. did you forget ? but now it seems you want to not continue the discussion here .. after professing to be an expert in Judaism .. saying others lacked understanding .. but it was you who was claiming there was no ethnic cleansing .. saying my understanding of the passages on the slaughter of the Amalekites and towns under King Sihon was lacking.. but as it turned out you eventually admitted that it was Ethinic Cleansing .. and so we are on the same page .. no need to call names .. say I don't know the Bible .. when the log in your own eye is large.

You have stated a number of times you are a monotheist .. no one forgot Rose .. the question you are hiding from is to tell us which God you believe in and worship . Is it the one True God Ahura Mazda ? the primordial one .. Or Lord YHWH .. Son of EL .. or is it some nameless God whose name resides nowhere .. and that is not my term .. better look up what the term resides mean .. and go figure out what a God's name residing in a Temple meant .. back in the days of the Canaanites.

But first you have to know the name of your God .. in order to find where that God's name resides ... and then being the expert in Judaism .. you can tell us why the God's name residing in a certain place was important to the Israelites.

 

[rosends]

We have been discussing the relationship between religion and ethnic cleansing .. did you forget ?

Actually, we haven't. You keep bringing up the biblical events and somehow trying to connect them to politics (which is what this forum is for).

but now it seems you want to not continue the discussion here .. after professing to be an expert in Judaism

I am an expert in Judaism. This is a politics board. Are you tying your feelings about Jews to you comments about Israel? In that case, you have made the connection between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism verty clear. Thanks!

.. saying others lacked understanding .. but it was you who was claiming there was no ethnic cleansing .. saying my understanding of the passages on the slaughter of the Amalekites and towns under King Sihon was lacking.. but as it turned out you eventually admitted that it was Ethinic Cleansing .. and so we are on the same page .. no need to call names .. say I don't know the Bible .. when the log in your own eye is large.

You don't know the bible. You parrot the English translation to a few selected verses but don't actually know the bible. This much is clear.

You have stated a number of times you are a monotheist

and yet you keep asking me to choose between your conception of many Gods. If you know I'm a monotheist, why do you keep asking?

.. no one forgot Rose .. the question you are hiding from is to tell us which God you believe in and worship . Is it the one True God Ahura Mazda ? the primordial one .. Or Lord YHWH .. Son of EL .. or is it some nameless God whose name resides nowhere

So here you are still trying to create a choice where there is only 1 God. And then you show that you really don't understand the bible because not only don't you know that a name doesn't reside, you don't know that the translation "name" is incorrect.

.. and that is not my term .. better look up what the term resides mean .. and go figure out what a God's name residing in a Temple meant .. back in the days of the Canaanites.

There was a temple in the days of the Canaanites?

But first you have to know the name of your God

You say that but it isn't true.

.. in order to find where that God's name resides ... and then being the expert in Judaism .. you can tell us why the God's name residing in a certain place was important to the Israelites.

You are making reference to the following verse -- "וְהָיָה הַמָּקוֹם אֲשֶׁר יִבְחַר ה' אֱ-לֹהֵיכֶם בּוֹ לְשַׁכֵּן שְׁמוֹ שָׁם שָׁמָּה תָבִיאוּ אֵת כָּל אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם עוֹלֹתֵיכֶם וְזִבְחֵיכֶם מַעְשְׂרֹתֵיכֶם וּתְרֻמַת יֶדְכֶם..." but using a sad and incomplete English version of it. Think of it more "to establish/settle my reputation" but if you prefer a simpler understanding, try "to be called by my name".

 

[Sargonski]

Actually, we haven't. You keep bringing up the biblical events and somehow trying to connect them to politics (which is what this forum is for).

I am an expert in Judaism. This is a politics board. Are you tying your feelings about Jews to you comments about Israel? In that case, you have made the connection between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism verty clear. Thanks!

You don't know the bible. You parrot the English translation to a few selected verses but don't actually know the bible. This much is clear.

and yet you keep asking me to choose between your conception of many Gods. If you know I'm a monotheist, why do you keep asking?

So here you are still trying to create a choice where there is only 1 God. And then you show that you really don't understand the bible because not only don't you know that a name doesn't reside, you don't know that the translation "name" is incorrect.

There was a temple in the days of the Canaanites?

You say that but it isn't true.

You are making reference to the following verse -- "וְהָיָה הַמָּקוֹם אֲשֶׁר יִבְחַר ה' אֱ-לֹהֵיכֶם בּוֹ לְשַׁכֵּן שְׁמוֹ שָׁם שָׁמָּה תָבִיאוּ אֵת כָּל אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם עוֹלֹתֵיכֶם וְזִבְחֵיכֶם מַעְשְׂרֹתֵיכֶם וּתְרֻמַת יֶדְכֶם..." but using a sad and incomplete English version of it. Think of it more "to establish/settle my reputation" but if you prefer a simpler understanding, try "to be called by my name".

"Feelings about Jews" ?? ... I have not expressed any feelings about Jews ... is this the part of the program where the poster cries "Anti-Semite" and then fields some made up allegation ?

Don't blame me that Bibi is using Biblical Passages -- I am just the messenger .. and it was you who said I did not understand the Biblical passages I was presenting .. claiming .. as you do above .. to be an expert in Judaism... but as it turned out .. you ended up agreeing with my understanding .. that the Israelites were engaged in Ethnic Cleansing of the Land .. from the River to the Sea. Today the cleansing continues . .. as part of the ideology of the Zionists -- same as was behind the Nakba Ethnic Cleansing .. and the religious extremists are along for the ride .. having similar Land Cleansing .. ideology .. and they speak truth to power on a near daily basis .. hard to keep up with the Genocidal Rhetoric being used .. not just by the extremists in Israel .. bu USA and EU Neocon club .. all who love a good war .. civilian slaughter is no bother when you are the one making the rules .. in a "Rules based Order"

Not sure why you are on about monotheism .. we know that this means you believe in only one God -- and worship only one God. The problem is that you won't tell us who this God is ... won't tell us the name or what you call this one True God .. telling us we don't understand what means "Where the name of God Resides" when it is you who does not understanding the meaning.

What "Name" have I mistranslated ? you exclaim "You don't know the name was translated incorrectly" What on earth are you talking about Rose .. I asked you for the name of your God .. what name was mistranslated ? I did not give a name for your God .. How would I know the name of the God you worship .. .. and am beginning to think you don't either .. as you can't seem to tell us what that name is .. only that we have mistranslated it .. mysteriously.

 

[rosends]

"Feelings about Jews" ?? ... I have not expressed any feelings about Jews ... is this the part of the program where the poster cries "Anti-Semite" and then fields some made up allegation ?

I simply point out that your criticisms in, for example, post 280 are about Judaism and Jewish belief (and me, as a Jew). Are you saying they aren't? In post 189, in fact, you draw together modern Israel and biblical Jewish belief. Ot did you not write post 189?

Don't blame me that Bibi is using Biblical Passages -- I am just the messenger .. and it was you who said I did not understand the Biblical passages I was presenting

Because you don't -- I have shown this based on hearing what he ACTUALLY said, not what you think he said.

Not sure why you are on about monotheism

Then you don't remember that you keep asking me to choose from among your polytheistic pantheon.

The problem is that you won't tell us who this God is ... won't tell us the name or what you call this one True God

You keep assuming that God has a name. Why? Because of your bad translation?

.. telling us we don't understand what means "Where the name of God Resides" when it is you who does not understanding the meaning.

I quoted it in the hebrew and I know the meaning of the Hebrew words. Do you? No. No, you don't.

What "Name" have I mistranslated ? you exclaim "You don't know the name was translated incorrectly"

You presented a quote that I never said. Why?

But to help you out, the word "shem" that you have translated as "name" -- that is wrong, at least in that you think it refers to an actual name. See, since you don't know the Hebrew, you can't understand the English.

 

[Sargonski]

I simply point out that your criticisms in, for example, post 280 are about Judaism and Jewish belief (and me, as a Jew). Are you saying they aren't? In post 189, in fact, you draw together modern Israel and biblical Jewish belief. Ot did you not write post 189?

Because you don't -- I have shown this based on hearing what he ACTUALLY said, not what you think he said.

Then you don't remember that you keep asking me to choose from among your polytheistic pantheon.

You keep assuming that God has a name. Why? Because of your bad translation?

I quoted it in the hebrew and I know the meaning of the Hebrew words. Do you? No. No, you don't.

You presented a quote that I never said. Why?

But to help you out, the word "shem" that you have translated as "name" -- that is wrong, at least in that you think it refers to an actual name. See, since you don't know the Hebrew, you can't understand the English.

I expressed no feelings about the Jews .. as a people .. a group. Telling you about the Ethnic Cleansing being conducted by some extremist Israeli's on a Power trip who happen to be Jews .. .. has nothing to do with feelings about the Jews in general ? just like commentary Russia invading Ukraine has nothing to do with my feelings about average Russians.

Glad we got that sorted .. but now this polytheistic Pantheon .. and you posting some Hebrew text .. as if I told you I spoke Hebrew. Sorry Friend .. I am not the one claiming to be an Expert in Judaism -- that was you a number of times .. but it seems you don't want to tell us who the name of your God is ..

Then you claim not to have said a name was mistranslated .. 1 God. And then you show that you really don't understand the bible because not only don't you know that a name doesn't reside, you don't know that the translation "name" is incorrect.

You are the one who doesn't realize that indeed it was believed that God's name resided in the Jerusalem Temple .. but what Translation "Name" is incorrect. and what is it I don't know about it ??

I was asking about the name of your God - and if you don't know the personal name of your God .. what is the name by which you call your God.

sd

 

[rosends]

I expressed no feelings about the Jews .. as a people .. a group. Telling you about the Ethnic Cleansing being conducted by some extremist Israeli's on a Power trip who happen to be Jews .. .. has nothing to do with feelings about the Jews in general ? just like commentary Russia invading Ukraine has nothing to do with my feelings about average Russians.

Glad we got that sorted .. but now this polytheistic Pantheon .. and you posting some Hebrew text .. as if I told you I spoke Hebrew. Sorry Friend .. I am not the one claiming to be an Expert in Judaism -- that was you a number of times .. but it seems you don't want to tell us who the name of your God is ..

You keep asking for something which doesn't exist so you can stop asking because you just look foolish. "Glad we got that sorted "

You are the one who doesn't realize that indeed it was believed that God's name resided in the Jerusalem Temple .. but what Translation "Name" is incorrect. and what is it I don't know about it ??

I was asking about the name of your God - and if you don't know the personal name of your God .. what is the name by which you call your God.

We don't call God by a personal name. Why would you tell me what I do?
If I were to say that someone invented a new moustrap and "made a name for himself" or if you insulted that person and "tarnished his good name" are those statements talking about a personal name?

 

[Sargonski]

You keep asking for something which doesn't exist so you can stop asking because you just look foolish. "Glad we got that sorted "

We don't call God by a personal name. Why would you tell me what I do?
If I were to say that someone invented a new moustrap and "made a name for himself" or if you insulted that person and "tarnished his good name" are those statements talking about a personal name?

"Foolish" you say If you don't call God by a Personal name and God does not have a name according to you - then how do you know which God of the Bible you are worshiping ?

You have said you are an expert in Judaism -- but not said whether it is the God of Judaism that you worship -- is this not the God you worship - just trying to figure out which God it is that you worship . I know you believe in only one .. but which one of the Gods proposed by humans is "The One" that you figure is the real one .. as opposed to all the other Fake ones . is this God Allah ? .. the God of Abraham ? Some nameless God in the Hindoo Pantheon ?

or do you not know which one ? forgot about that possility .. and just use a generic term for God "Lord" , "Adonai" , or an epithet such as "El Elyon - Most High" You are being very mysterious as to the identity of this God of the "We" .. who is "We" ? and do you know where your God's name resides ? where does your God live her address you know .. in case we want to pay a visit

 

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"Foolish" you say If you don't call God by a Personal name and God does not have a name according to you - then how do you know which God of the Bible you are worshiping ?

Again, you act as if there is more than one. Weird that you haven't figured out that you are talking past me by ignoring what I keep saying.

You have said you are an expert in Judaism -- but not said whether it is the God of Judaism that you worship

Is there more than one? No.

but which one of the Gods proposed by humans is "The One" that you figure is the real one .. as opposed to all the other Fake ones . is this God Allah ? .. the God of Abraham ? Some nameless God in the Hindoo Pantheon ?

So you think that any and all "gods" were "proposed by humans." Therefore you are some form of an atheist. Is that correct?

or do you not know which one ? forgot about that possility .. and just use a generic term for God "Lord" , "Adonai" , or an epithet such as "El Elyon - Most High"

No, there is no possibility. If you have a question about how Judaism refers to God then you should start a thread in a religious subforum and ask respectfully.

You are being very mysterious as to the identity of this God of the "We" .. who is "We" ? and do you know where your God's name resides ? where does your God live her address you know .. in case we want to pay a visit

so which is it, are you a polytheist with limited English language skills, or an atheist with limited English language skills?

 

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Again, you act as if there is more than one. Weird that you haven't figured out that you are talking past me by ignoring what I keep saying.

Is there more than one? No.

So you think that any and all "gods" were "proposed by humans." Therefore you are some form of an atheist. Is that correct?

No, there is no possibility. If you have a question about how Judaism refers to God then you should start a thread in a religious subforum and ask respectfully.

so which is it, are you a polytheist with limited English language skills, or an atheist with limited English language skills?

I have acted no such way .. I don't have a dog in this pony show. It is the Israelites who believed in many Gods. You claim to be an expert in Judaism so I thought you would be aware of this but apparantly that is not the case. I thought being an expert in Judaism you would know who the God of Judaism was .. but clearly this is not the case either since you don't know where the name of this God Resides.

All this is fine but this is not for a religious sub-forum -- as it is Bibi who was referencing the Bible .. our Beloved Amalakites .. and you being an expert in Judaism .. was going to help us to understand these Biblical references and from this we know this was a Zionist reference to "Cleanse the Land" from the river to the Sea.. Good old fashioned Ethnic Cleansing .. like in the good old days of King Sihon and the Israelites.

Now you were the one talking about God commanding this Ethnic cleansing back in the good old days.. I was wondering which God you were referring to .. but apparently you don't know the name of this mystery God of the Israelites... hmmmm.

Lucky for you .. I did some research and found out the name of this God that the extremist religious zealots in Bibi's camp worship .. and I am sure you will be very happy to learn that the name of this God is no longer unknown .. Did you want to guess ? .. test out your skills as an expert in Judaism ?