Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
The ones that are most likely out there, we just lack the technology to find them at this time. Earth is one planet out of billions in our galaxy. Our galaxy is one out of hundreds of billions in the known universe.
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If America went without religion...
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The ones that are most likely out there, we just lack the technology to find them at this time. Earth is one planet out of billions in our galaxy. Our galaxy is one out of hundreds of billions in the known universe.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
Nope, you're wrong. Get yourself a dictionary, and then answer my question. If I choose to rebut, I will.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
Why would you say most likely out there. What evidence do you have to suggest that life has originated anywhere else than here?
Matter is something that exists. We have a pretty good idea that all matter that we know of originated from the same location. We have absolutely no evidence that there is other matter out there that originated from some other place. It appears that the life that exists on earth originated here on earth. Why would you conclude that it might also originate somewhere else?
I have a particular fingerprint. Do you believe that my fingerprint exists anywhere else in this universe other than right here on this planet? I don't think so.
I would never suggest that something is more or less likely to happen when I have absolutely no evidence that it could, which is the boat you are in right now.
Timothy Bryce
Active Member
Okay, time to put out this dumpster fire (seeing as I’ve already been more than generous to you in this thread):
1. The OP asked what the consequences would be if religious affiliations in the US were flipped.
2. I responded by stating my opinion that there would be less obnoxious, self-righteousness.
3. You then called my post obnoxious and self-righteous.
4. I asked what your rationale was for saying so.
5. You failed to provide one, then asked me for my rationale for (2.)
6. Your understanding of the word is: “Rationale - an explanation of controlling principles of opinion, belief, practice, or phenomena”.
7. My explanation for my opinion that there would be less obnoxious, self-righteousness: “[that] imposition of morality based on a claim to know and endorse an ultimate, supreme, overriding principle of the universe is inherently obnoxious and self-righteous.”
8. You react by saying “you’re wrong” and imply that I haven’t answered your question when it’s obvious that I have.
In summary, you’ve offered NOTHING in our exchange besides broken semantics and weak insults.Then again, I wouldn't expect anything more than that coming from someone who is clearly expressing their hurt feelings.
You're a goofy dude. Better luck next time.
Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
And why would God be restricted to creating life on just this planet? Because some ancient holy book says so, written by men that did not have a telescope and thought epilepsy was a demonic possession?
Define 'good'.
If that's true, I should be more scared of religious folk than I currently am. Sounds like they're staving off sociopathy with some difficulty based on your post...
Timothy Bryce
Active Member
And why would God be restricted to creating life on just this planet? Because some ancient holy book says so, written by men that did not have a telescope and thought epilepsy was a demonic possession?
That would certainly be his rationale.
Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
It is not very rational.
Generally speaking, based on the scripture. "If there is no resurrection of the dead, let us eat and drink for tomorrow we die"
Altfish
Veteran Member
Have you any evidence for that? The social conditions in the US being better?
I think you'll find the Scandinavian countries are op of most leagues for welfare with much of the rest of Europe not far behind.
Why isn't Hillary in prison? Do all criminals go to prison?
Papoon
Active Member
What evidence do you have that the authors of the Bible actually know sh*t from apples ? Only the circular logic that the book is true because the book says it is true.
That, and the easily observable fact that "I'll see it when I believe it".
Which is why belief is the central obsession of religion. It's a job !
Belief is necessary because we weren't there to see Jesus walking around after he had been crucified. The evidence is, there must have been a lot of evidence it was true, since so many people, even high ranking officials, believed it. It wasn't forced on anybody, it was people telling what happened and others believing or not believing. (pre-pope days anyway, what it turned into later is another story)
Are you claiming that people who accept their own mortality have a hard time being moral?
I would say instead that fear of death is a lousy basis for attempting to build a semblance of morality.
Actually, I can give witness that it is so. I know a lot of examples of how lousy it is. We all deserve better, far better.
People have a hard time doing things which do not benefit themselves. God says the only religion acceptable to God is helping those who can do nothing for you in return. Because you can do nothing for God. But most religious people don't do that very well either, including myself. How often does the rich man get up in the morning and decide to go find some homeless person or an orphan to give his money to, rather than spend a day on the golf course?
I would hope that if your definition of 'good' is based on scripture Christians claim to follow, then Christians woild be 'gooder' than others.
However, if your definition of good is not scriptually based, you can see how this would be less likely to be true.
Do you see my point?
No one needs to think in such terms. As I said, we all deserve better.