Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Or is the universe contained in the eye? Or reality in a grain of sand and eternity in an hour? And something about flowers I think.
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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?
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Or is the universe contained in the eye? Or reality in a grain of sand and eternity in an hour? And something about flowers I think.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no "Absolute" below us, above us only sky,
Imagine no "Cosmic Consciousness", it's easy if you try...."
Ben Dhyan
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Wrt the raising of new age rhetoric whereby the unenlightened imagine they have realized enlightenment....some guidance is necessary.... such characters are legion all over the net. Of course most have probably had an real at-one-ment experience....sunrise...beloved's eyes...starry night..etc... but note they make a distinction between the experiencer and experience. In the real thing....this apparent duality is no more and there is only non-duality. Now anyone talking about looking, seeing, experiencing, etc, in the context of enlightenment is a sure indication of the unenlightened imagining they are enlightened....those who understand what I am conveying know who they are.. 
Only when this error is acknowledged by the deluded ones will they be ready to move on to the real... So long as there is a you seeking enlightenment, or not seeking enlightenment, you are far from it...now that's a serious riddle...haha....
Only when this error is acknowledged by the deluded ones will they be ready to move on to the real... So long as there is a you seeking enlightenment, or not seeking enlightenment, you are far from it...now that's a serious riddle...haha....
godnotgod
Thou art That
Imagine there's just the lobotomized frog
just sitting motionless
in the simplicity of this present moment
singing: la la la la la la
I can't hear you.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Imagine no duality;
No 'this' and 'thatness'
No 'doer' of the 'doing'
and the endless sky above
none other than Absoluteness.
Chinese Emperor: 'And tell me of the holy scriptures'
Bodhidharma: 'No holiness is clear, like space'
godnotgod
Thou art That
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Wrt the raising of new age rhetoric whereby the unenlightened imagine they have realized enlightenment....some guidance is necessary.... such characters are legion all over the net. Of course most have probably had an real at-one-ment experience....sunrise...beloved's eyes...starry night..etc... but note they make a distinction between the experiencer and experience. In the real thing....this apparent duality is no more and there is only non-duality. Now anyone talking about looking, seeing, experiencing, etc, in the context of enlightenment is a sure indication of the unenlightened imagining they are enlightened....those who understand what I am conveying know who they are..
The universe alone sees.
Sirius Star
Member
No, but they may have made it to Havana. As of course, that would be both possibilities in terms of. "...never have...."
But then in the soon course of events the real eventual truth closes in on everyone who thought they once had all ever had.
Sirius Star
Member
Well that could constitute one single real answer that finally says you.
Ben Dhyan
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Ben Dhyan
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Yes...we know that...there is non-duality...that is the absolute universe. Knowing this conceptually and having had an at-one-ment experience is common...all new agers speak endlessly about it... But most will never in this life go on to realize it....not as a time space experience...but eternally....because they cling to the experience thinking that is all there is to it...all the while mostly interacting with the universe as though it is not them...
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
New age fluff....... seriously are you claiming to be Vishnu? How is your relationship with Shiva and Brahma? And your Father Brahman, how is that relationship going?
Interesting... Why do you perceive yourself to be separate or so different in such a way?
You know that isn't possible, right?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Look in a mirror?! You were lucky! We never had time to look in mirrors! We had to sit in a rabbit hole for 26 hours a day, quote-mining on google. It were completely pointless of course. They wanted us to prove that the "Absolute" exists, which is like some sort of new-age God, completely daft but they wouldn't have it. We had to get up before we went to bed, not that we had a bed mind you, and when we got home our father would cut us up for firewood...not that we had a father, a home or even a fire, we could only dream of such things, sheer luxury!.....
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Indeed. The great cosmic Cigar.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Yes...we know that...there is non-duality...that is the absolute universe. Knowing this conceptually and having had an at-one-ment experience is common...all new agers speak endlessly about it... But most will never in this life go on to realize it....not as a time space experience...but eternally....because they cling to the experience thinking that is all there is to it...all the while mostly interacting with the universe as though it is not them...
I see eternity in everything.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I don't think they are going to get it! Their heads are too far up their own bottoms!
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
No...to the contrary......when my mind is in duality....that is when it thinks....then I the thinker is separate from all the thoughts about things or aspects of the universe that I think....and that most importantly includes the absolute universe itself...non-duality.. Thought or conception of non-duality is duality...but most new agers can't grasp that..
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
That's far too simple! You will now have to build a bizarre DIY religion around this idea, make up lots of new-age PPNs to pad our your word-salad, misuse terms from authentic traditions, quote-mine for irrelevant nonsense on google, attend a Chopra snake-oil seminar and get a diploma in BS delivery. Then you will be ready to start your preaching career!
Oh, I forget, you have to mention "non-duality" a lot, and "non-conceptual", lots of words with "non", it's all twaddle but makes you sound cool, well not really.
And don't forget to use the stream of consciousness approach....not using punctuation....it's just an affection or course...rather like posting in coloured text....and starting every second word with a capital letter....there's probably a new-age course on this......
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Ben Dhyan
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Mere conceptual cerebral new age fluffy rhetoric.... eternity is...but it can't be seen, and none of the forms you see are eternal.. If you claim you are God, the Universe, Vishnu, etc., it is vanity....he who says does not know, one who knows does not say... another serious riddle..
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