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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I was just joking.
Ah, OK. It was not obvious. I've often said, "If you want to really know me, you will have to know yourself, but even then you will not really know me, but at least you will have a better idea of where I am coming from." (Pun Alert!)
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Someone with extensive knowledge of altered states of consciousness should be able to figure out my riddle. I have given a couple of big clues. Again, if people know anything about altered states of consciousness, above the superficial neophyte "levels", this should be a no-brainer. Meditate on what I saw in those HUGE EYES!

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godnotgod

Thou art That
Ah, OK. It was not obvious. I've often said, "If you want to really know me, you will have to know yourself, but even then you will not really know me, but at least you will have a better idea of where I am coming from." (Pun Alert!)

Now The Absolute wants to openly play Hide and Seek, Peek-a-Boo, and Who Am I? with the others.
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Someone with extensive knowledge of altered states of consciousness should be able to figure out my riddle. I have given a couple of big clues. Again, if people know anything about altered states of consciousness, above the superficial neophyte "levels", this should be a no-brainer. Meditate on what I saw in those HUGE EYES!


You looked straight into your own eyes as a child. No religion, no god, only the pure joy of just being.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
I don't expect many to understand, Ben. I thought you just might. My inner journey was a tad off the beaten path, to be sure. Books and spiritual texts were of little use as I plunged down my own rabbit hole. I'm not even sure how the phase I am talking about even began, but I vaguely remember being intrigued by the Hare Krsna's insistence that one could actually meet god - face to face...

To put this into acceptable terms for some, you could say that I simply had a far better imagination than most, and due to my affinity/predilection for obscure altered states of consciousness, dove-tailed with a youthful exuberance, I was able to create an experience that was utterly amazing.

At the time, I did definitely believe, with all my heart and that innocent youthful joy propelled me further than my wildest dreams. My return to my atheistic root was not instantaneous and it took some time for my conscious mind to "catch up" to that timeless experience, several years, in fact. One day, it all just clicked and that is the day that I began to map out my own weird ideas about the nature of personality devoid of all the religious mumbo-jumbo.
YmirGF, I really am trying to understand where you are coming from.....please explain to me if I am missing something.... You were an atheist as a youth....joined ISKON where Brahman was never mentioned....and due to your spiritual ignorance, brainwashing, and overly vivid imagination....you imagined that your saw Vishnu and looked into His eyes and thought He was real....later you realized you were mistaken and returned to atheism...

Also, concerning altered states of consciousness....did you do drugs before joining ISKON...or since?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
YmirGF, I really am trying to understand where you are coming from.....please explain to me if I am missing something.... You were an atheist as a youth....joined ISKON where Brahman was never mentioned....and due to your spiritual ignorance, brainwashing, and overly vivid imagination....you imagined that your saw Vishnu and looked into His eyes and thought He was real....later you realized you were mistaken and returned to atheism...
My goodness, Ben D, you are really over-complicating this. I seriously thought you would home in on the answer rather rapidly. Pro Tip: Reflect on what I said about the eyes.......
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
My goodness, Ben D, you are really over-complicating this. I seriously thought you would home in on the answer rather rapidly. Pro Tip: Reflect on what I said about the eyes.......
You ignored my questions Paul....and it was not I who imagined they looked into eyes of an imaginary Vishnu....but you....what to sweet heaven am I supposed to reflect on when I did not have the experience?
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
My goodness, Ben D, you are really over-complicating this. I seriously thought you would home in on the answer rather rapidly. Pro Tip: Reflect on what I said about the eyes.......

Perhaps, as you were confused then, you are also confused now, but only THINK you know the score, just as the dreamer, upon awakening, only THINKS himself to be fully awake, but is, in actuality, in the state of Waking Sleep, AKA Identification.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
You ignored my questions Paul....and it was not I who imagined they looked into eyes an imaginary Vishnu....but you....what to sweet heaven am I supposed to reflect on when I did not have the experience?

He's just a cute cuddly little mouse. What can you expect?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
You ignored my questions Paul....and it was not I who imagined they looked into eyes of an imaginary Vishnu....but you....what to sweet heaven am I supposed to reflect on when I did not have the experience?
Oh, Ben, I'm gonna let you stew for a few days. The answer I'm looking for is so drop dead simple that you're going to kick yourself. This is too hilarious.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Oh, Ben, I'm gonna let you stew for a few days. The answer I'm looking for is so drop dead simple that you're going to kick yourself. This is too hilarious.

You must be the only one who thinks so.

Is this what you do to get attention to make up for your little mouse size?

For shame!

Now go to your mouse-hole!
 
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