Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Well said.
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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?
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Well said.
Ben Dhyan
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I did not realize you understood there was a universal mind...
godnotgod
Thou art That
Don't you? From this side of Reality, it appears that even Reality is 'mental popcorn', simply because you are still looking at it via the rational mind. I have told you repeatedly that Reality is beyond Reason, but you persist in clinging to Reason as if it is going to save you life, when, in fact, it is a millstone around your neck that will only cause you to drop to the bottom of the sea very quickly. You continue to wallow around in duality and are so deeply entrenched in it that you don't even recogrnize that you are.
I am very sorry, sir, but the mind does not exist. It is a self-created principle, but obviously you haven't yet realized that fact.
Once you realize unity, 'mind' is no more, because mind creates subject and object; observer and observed; this and that, and all the rest of duality. That is precisely why the great yogi Patanjali said in his Yoga Sutras: 'Yoga (union) is the complete cessation of all of the activities of the mind', but still you persist in your folly, with 'monkey mind' churning round and round and round ceaselessly!, and seeing the illusion of 'interaction', and thinking it real. There is no 'mind' over here, and 'universe' over there: if they are truly one, then why do you make the distinction, when there is none. Union is more than you describe, with identity of 'mind' merged completely 'as dye dissolved in water', or the drop in the ocean merging totally with ocean. This is Nirvana.
(Best get thee back to the nunnery, and pronto!
(Oh, I forgot....you've never been there in the first place! It's ALL just so much mental popcorn to you!
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godnotgod
Thou art That
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Don't you? From this side of Reality, it appears that even Reality is 'mental popcorn', simply because you are still looking at it via the rational mind. I have told you repeatedly that Reality is beyond Reason, but you persist in clinging to Reason as if it is going to save you life, when, in fact, it is a millstone around your neck that will only cause you to drop to the bottom of the sea very quickly. You continue to wallow around in duality and are so deeply entrenched in it that you don't even recogrnize that you are.
I am very sorry, sir, but the mind does not exist. It is a self-created principle, but obviously you haven't yet realized that fact.
Once you realize unity, 'mind' is no more, because mind creates subject and object; observer and observed; this and that, and all the rest of duality. That is precisely why the great yogi Patanjali said in his Yoga Sutras: 'Yoga (union) is the complete cessation of all of the activities of the mind', but still you persist in your folly, with 'monkey mind' churning round and round and round ceaselessly!, and seeing the illusion of 'interaction', and thinking it real. There is no 'mind' over here, and 'universe' over there: if they are truly one, then why do you make the distinction, when there is none. Union is more than you describe, with identity of 'mind' merged completely 'as dye dissolved in water', or the drop in the ocean merging totally with ocean. This is Nirvana.
(Best get thee back to the nunnery, and pronto!
(Oh, I forgot....you've never been there in the first place! It's ALL just so much mental popcorn to you!
This side of reality? Sorry, but there are no "sides" to reality much like there are no real "sides" of that metaphorical river which you so desperately try to cross with your giant, ego-inflated raft.
psychoslice
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If everything is energy, then why wast your energy worrying about anything.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
It certainly is! At least what you are saying is intelligible and supported by observation, unlike some of the pretentious new-age nonsense being interminably preached on this thread.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Hee hee.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Everything is interconnected and interdependent, therefore NOTHING is self-created, not even the mind.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Someone who is trying to tell me all about oneness and unity while in duality can only provide a poor report. It's not my opinion; it's just what you're doing.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
So you percieve me to be in duality? How is that possible? How can I be in duality if no such thing exists?
godnotgod
Thou art That
There are no 'things' that are interconnected and interdependent, because there are no things at all. It is all one seamless Reality, appearing as many interconnected 'things'. Again, you are confusing 'things' with 'form'.
'form is emptiness;
emptiness is form'
The mind is an illusion....a self-created illusion. Think about it.
Otherwise, show me this so-called 'mind'.
godnotgod
Thou art That
It doesn't. You are deluded.
Go back and look at your own posts as you talk about this and that being in union. If they are in union, there is no such this and that. It's just mental popcorn.
So you are mindless?
There must exist a "self" for there to be a "self-created illusion". This self is the mind (or is necessarily dependent upon it)
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Mmmm, I love stout Guinness, i also make my own, its a good way to use my energy lol.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Is it not so that the mind, which you talk about as being in unity with the universe, sees things as subject/object; observer/observed; this and that?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
In other words there is no "this side of reality", or "that side of reality". There is no "this is the false Tao", or "that is the true Tao".
godnotgod
Thou art That
The self is an illusion. It is merely a collection of past images, experiences, labels, etc. all concocted together to appear as a real entity called 'I'.
There is no such 'I' in the first place that can be mindless. There is only consciousness, without an agent of consciousness.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
So what? Things are not always as we see them. Just because the mind percieves duality doesn't mean that the mind is separate from the universe.
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