Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Indeed. In Hell we'll have AC/DC, hot girls and Mötorhead to listen to all day.
In heaven they'll have spinsters and cliff richard. I now where I'm going.
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if i masturbate will i go to hell?
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Indeed. In Hell we'll have AC/DC, hot girls and Mötorhead to listen to all day.
In heaven they'll have spinsters and cliff richard. I now where I'm going.
arcanum
Active Member
And just where in the bible does it say that if you masturbate you will go to hell? Let me save you the trouble of looking, it doesn't. God would be quite cruel if he put sexual urges in people just as a way to trip them up so he send them to hell for it. It's staggering to think of the damage that mainstream Christianity has done over the centuries to so many people, all the guilt, fear, oppression and repression .This does not come from the New Testament itself but is the product of the catholic/orthodox church and all her illegitimate offspring.
MatthewKeegan
Member
i hear you and it makes sense, but masturbation still can't be done without looking or thinking something lustful, and if you lust God said it's like adultery in one's heart, so it kinda overlaps
arcanum
Active Member
God didn't say it, Jesus said it and he was probably talking about married people, lusting after someone else's spouse.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
It's hard to do anything related to relationships that doesn't involve lust.
Seriously, try asking someone out without thinking about the possibility of sex.
Alceste
Vagabond
Nah, masturbation is actually pretty good for you, physically and psychologically. God's not going to punish you for whatever you imagine while you're wanking. If that was Her aim, She would not have given us so little control over what we do or don't think about, and She wouldn't have given us a smorgasbord of hormones that force us to be horny, even when we'd rather not be, and She wouldn't have made orgasms pretty much the only effective remedy for horniness.
If you are looking for more control over your sexual thoughts and urges, meditation can be somewhat effective, from what I understand. It's not based on the idea that you try to suppress / repress / eliminate your sexual urges, but you let them arise, take note of them as a casual observer rather than a slave to them, and wait for them to pass naturally, as they inevitably will. (Because all things pass). From that frame of mind, you needn't be disturbed by your horniness and you needn't do anything about it. It just is. Like all feelings, horniness comes and goes, so to speak.
If you are looking for more control over your sexual thoughts and urges, meditation can be somewhat effective, from what I understand. It's not based on the idea that you try to suppress / repress / eliminate your sexual urges, but you let them arise, take note of them as a casual observer rather than a slave to them, and wait for them to pass naturally, as they inevitably will. (Because all things pass). From that frame of mind, you needn't be disturbed by your horniness and you needn't do anything about it. It just is. Like all feelings, horniness comes and goes, so to speak.
Is this the only thing you claim to know about God? What kind of religion is teaching you all about lust and nothing about Jesus, sacrifice, mercy and all the other core dogmas? Your laments sound very strange to me.
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McBell
Unbound
Interesting that you assume your inability to not lust while masturbating is something that everyone shares...
Indeed. In Hell we'll have AC/DC, hot girls and Mötorhead to listen to all day.
In heaven they'll have spinsters and cliff richard. I now where I'm going.
If AC/DC's going to hell, I'm happy to go to Heaven. I'd rather be around Mozart and Bach than some dumb rock star, anyway.
McBell
Unbound
Interesting assumptions you make.
Go tell that to Quatermass.
Alceste
Vagabond
Mozart and Bach committed adultery, so they'll both be jamming with AC/DC in hell.
Mozart and Bach committed adultery, so they'll both be jamming with AC/DC in hell.
That's what repentance is for.
Alceste
Vagabond
That's what repentance is for.
I've never met a musician who ever repented after getting laid. That's the whole point of being a musician.
I've never met a musician who ever repented after getting laid. That's the whole point of being a musician.
Well, I guess I don't want to go where musicians are, then, since it seems that you're all such an immoral lot. I'm not going to either Heaven or hell, apparently.
ScottySatan
Well-Known Member
I think you can measure how sinful something is by asking how badly do most people not want to get caught in the act. I think most people would want to not get caught masturbating. It's instinctively a sin. An interesting next question would be "Why?".
maybe because you have reduced fertility for a day or two?
maybe because you have reduced fertility for a day or two?
Probably because it's viewed as a private act and you feel embarrassed if caught.
That only applies to males.
Alceste
Vagabond
So... then pooping is pretty sinful?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Mozart and Bach committed adultery, so they'll both be jamming with AC/DC in hell.
Speaking of Classical and not-so-classy, if you are not familiar with these guys you should Youtube "2Cellos". Prepare to be amazed.