Secret Chief
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Whether other not deity/s exist.What issue, exactly?
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Whether other not deity/s exist.What issue, exactly?
What would be the pros and cons?
So the Ahmadi's concept of peace is to convert everyone to Islam and unite the Islamic world.
I was wondering if this would work for atheism?
Certainly not any forced conversion. Just a movement to evolve beyond religion.
Understanding atheism doesn't deny God. Atheism only recognizes man's ignorance about God.
What atheism does deny is all messengers of God. I suppose a few people might be reluctant to let go of their favored messengers.
IMO, there'd be nothing lost which couldn't be accomplished by other means.
We are entitled to our own understanding of the definitionSorry, but this, to me, is akin to dividing zero by zero..
Are babies born vegetarian because they don’t eat meat?
Are you asserting a God actually exists and religions are justified?What would atheists have to obsess about, if there were no God and no religion?
Why would you say this? Do you atheists would start beheading theists as ISIS does? Or force women into wearing clothes that fully cover them? Or lie about science as evangelicals do?If all would become atheists, I believe humans would eventually regress to animal level.
Explain what "raise spirit " means, and how it is a singularly advantageous thing that only those who use it can succeed.This doesn't mean atheists are all animal level, only that it would lead to that, because atheism doesn't raise spirit to achieve greater things than what can be seen. Some would obviously think it is good, I would not like that.
Whether other not deity/s exist.
We are entitled to our own understanding of the definition
I would say yes, they are vegetarian until indoctrinated ro meat by their parents
Matters of mind are not equivalent to physical attributes.
.yes, sorry(I'm assuming that "other" is a typo for "or" - let me know if that's wrong)
You effectively gave two issues:
- whether or not deity exist
- whether or not deities exist
Which is it?
Technically it does. Ask anyone who once was a christian and chose to become an atheist.Neither does atheism.
Don't know how you think that. Everyone is a civilian until they choose otherwise.So you think babies aren't civilians?
Some believe in one deity(I'm assuming that "other" is a typo for "or" - let me know if that's wrong)
You effectively gave two issues:
- whether or not deity exist
- whether or not deities exist
Which is it?
It would seem more likely they are not vegetarian, but rather have been formed from the environment that created them prior to birth, which would suggest that if the parents were meat eaters, it's a natural part of their ecosystem as individuals. If they weren't meat eaters, then I doubt meat would be part of the indoctrination from their parents.
After rethinking this, I have changed my mind.Everyone is born atheist. Some are taught to believe.
When I hear someone proposing a way to define "atheist", I always run it past two quick checks to see whether it aligns with usage even at a surface level. I think both are things that pretty much everyone can agree with about atheists:.yes, sorry
Any number of deities. Why does that matter?
You're so close to getting it.Technically it does. Ask anyone who once was a christian and chose to become an atheist.
Don't know how you think that. Everyone is a civilian until they choose otherwise.
Would someone who eats nothing but dairy products be considered a vegetarian?Sorry, but this, to me, is akin to dividing zero by zero..
Are babies born vegetarian because they don’t eat meat?
After rethinking this, I have changed my mind.
Being a christian, agnostic or an atheist all involve some form of concept of a god.
A baby lacks that concept so IMO they are none of the above.
For the majority, they are indoctrinated to meat by their parents.
IMO until one hears about something they lack concept and have no opinion either way. They don't lack belief or have belief because they have never heard of that something, they have no concept.You don't need knowledge of something to lack belief in it. In fact there are lots of things i don't know exist that i lack belief in.
I've already had it. You otoh have strayed.You're so close to getting it.
I would suggest yes, they are born with the vegetarian standard. Other types of foods are added to the system as needed and in appropriate steps to help maintain a healthy ecological balance, in association with their natural ecosystem itself.Would someone who eats nothing but dairy products be considered a vegetarian?
Babies don't typically start eating vegetables until they start on solid foods.