RestlessSoul
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I believe in God because when I needed Him*, He was there. And has been ever since. His rod and his staff, they comfort me.
*Her, It, whatever...
*Her, It, whatever...
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If you believe in a god or don't believe in a god.....
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Please show me where I said or even implied that.
Trailblazer
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I believe in God because of the Messengers of God, mainly because of Baha'u'llah, but also the other Messengers.
Trailblazer
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What would actually be evidence for God if it was there?
IOW, what would you expect to see if the evidence was there?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
*WINNER*
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Aside from a super advanced alien?
I figure a god itself would know how to convince me assuming for sake of argument there is one.
I don't expect something like that to happen anytime soon.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
God is defined as an entity with power and authority over me. A Supreme God creates supremely. I have no experience nor any evidence, nor any proof of any such entity. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing out there taking responsibility for anything that goes on here on planet earth. God is pretty good for running thought experiments though. I suppose a person can make a God out of anything living or non living.
The arguments that give me pause to consider a reality of higher power is the moral argument, and the reality of the virtues. I've basically set up my own higher power in the virtues.
The arguments that give me pause to consider a reality of higher power is the moral argument, and the reality of the virtues. I've basically set up my own higher power in the virtues.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Why do you think that would be evidence of God?
Yes, I am sure that God would know how to convince you if God wanted to, but since He hasn't that tells me that He does not want to
I don't think that is going to happen at all since I believe God wants us to convince ourselves, or not, whichever may be the case.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't believe in god(s) because I don't know what that is. And obviously nobody else does, either.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I don't believe in 'god(s)' because I don't know what that is, but I believe in 'God' because I know what that is.
Heyo
Veteran Member
You think you know. Many do. But when questioned they never come up with a useful definition. They don't agree and they can't agree because there is no epistemology on how to know what a god is.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not know much about what God is but I have a definition that works for me to know what I can know and what I need to know.
God in the Baháʼí Faith
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Thats pretty much the evidence there is no God actually, as first possibility is going to be an immensely advanced alien first.
Saying a god dosent want to, is actually a personal statement of convenience and saving face.
It's more honest for a theist to think there is, maybe a god, rather than state there is a god in light of the fact no god in reality actually exists to speak of for people to see, save for the imaginary conceptualized one inside the brain.
For an atheist, simply being someone without gods is an honest statement along with acknowledging and pointing out there are no convincing empirical examples of the paranormal that even remotely suggest there is a god, or even the possibility of a god in the first place.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Since childhood I have had a growing desire and have felt a calling.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Why would God want to convince atheists that He exists?
Why would it be a personal statement of convenience and saving face if God didn't want to convince you?
Why do you think anyone would ever be able to see God, if God existed?
Why do you think there would be convincing empirical examples of the paranormal if God exists?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Let's put it into perspective.
It's more convincing if a real hammer was dropped on your foot as opposed to someone dropping their imaginary one on your foot.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That's true and it is a good analogy.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
When I think of paranormal, I think first of oxygen, which we can't see. but know in the sense of proof and belief that it's there. I believe scientists may try to explain how oxygen came about by physical or natural means, and who knows, they may be right, nevertheless it is still unnatural in the sense that it is beyond our human minds to really understand. That's what I think.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I believe it's possible that multiple deities could exist because of my personal experiences with the supernatural, but I can't demonstrate the existence of any deities as I can with many of the other supernatural encounters that have happened to me during my lifetime. However, given my understanding of the spirit realm, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me to think that many deities could also exist within it. If I find out they exist, I'll be fine with it. I'm also fine if I never find out if they exist. I'm okay either way because I won't let believing in any deity dictate and control my life, as I did when I was a Christian.
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Misunderstood
Active Member
That is a fair answer. It is a hard thing to discuss something when nobody knows what they are discussing.
I will paste a definition from Merriam-webster below. Not that is is necessarily what everyone would use as a definition, but it is a highly regarded source. If you do not like it, find one you would feel is a better description. Maybe we can come up with a definition we can agree on and use.
Remember there is more than one definition of God, (like a sports god, skateboard god, a person very good at something) so that makes things even more confusing.
Definition of GOD