If you believe in God AND evolution, why do you believe in God?

[YoursTrue]

I was just arguing that this evidence suggests a physical brain is not needed for consciousness which is the materialist’s position.

I'm going to agree with you there, since I do believe and am convinced there are unseen spirits that think but are not physical beings such as we are.

 

[YoursTrue]

How is this different from theists who don't accept evolution? IMO, sketchy or non-existent justifications for belief in God seem to be a near-universal thing.

It wonder if someone has put up a thread asking why a person believes in God.

 

[Spice]

So then the question remains -- do you think this Mystery often called God has a personality?

No -- not in the human sense.

 

[sayak83]

Be brave--and support your belief in God with reason, if possible, please. That is if you believe in evolution as well as in God.

You are talking of the Christian God?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It wonder if someone has put up a thread asking why a person believes in God.

You did. This one.

 

[Kfox]

Be brave--and support your belief in God with reason, if possible, please. That is if you believe in evolution as well as in God.

Even the Pope believes in God and Evolution

Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand'

Francis goes against Benedict XVI’s apparent support for 'intelligent design' - but does hail his predecessor’s 'great contribution to theology'

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Trailblazer]

Be brave--and support your belief in God with reason, if possible, please. That is if you believe in evolution as well as in God.

Why can't I believe in God AND evolution?

I do not have to believe that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman in order to believe in God.
Everyone who believes in God is not a Christian, and not even all Christians believe that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Why can't I believe in God AND evolution?

I do not have to believe that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman in order to believe in God.
Everyone who believes in God is not a Christian, and not even all Christians believe that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman.

You can (and do) believe in things that other people do not. There is no law against that.
You can believe that the world was created by an evil spirit (the way it is). That will be more believable.
Why you believe so is another matter. It depends on the intelligence of the person.
Ignorant people believe in what scammers say.
Of course, who were the first man and woman lies in a very hazy area.
It was a very gradual transition from ancestors of chimps to humans over 7 million years.

Homo habilis skull and reconstruction of the face.

Click to enlarge

 

[Coder]

I do not have to believe that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman in order to believe in God.

Even the Hebrew word Adam from adama (earth, ground) may have the more symbolic message that humankind developed from the materials of the earth. Adam and Eve and Santa Claus are grammar-school-level teachings. (I don't like to tell the story of Santa Claus because learn later that it's not true.)

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

As a retired scientist, I am firmly convinced they are wrong.

how so?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

As a matter of fact, I think it's more than the 'no evidence' idea,

not really

I think it's the multitude of different religions and their gods and how people worship that is/can be confusing. Therefore, since it may be so confusing for some, they figure (like I did) that there is no God.

No.

By the same token, there are a LOT of claims about how to diet to lose weight. Many of them are just bs or even dangerous / not healthy at all.
Some are good ways and are actually supported by sound valid data / evidence.

The existence of the many bs diets (which is the vast majority btw), doesn't invalidate the few ways of dieting that are actually healthy and which actually work.


However is none of them could be shown to work or be healthy, then I could just say that I don't believe in any of them due to lack of evidence that they work.
And the fact that there are hundreds of claimed such diets or just 2, wouldn't matter.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

In other words, they cite science for backup regarding the theory of evolution but zero justification or reasoning as to why they believe in God if they also claim belief in God

It's almost as if evolution actually has evidence that can be cited to justify belief in it while belief in god has not...
Almost....

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That is not my question.

It actually is.

As he said: if your justifications for believing in a god would not be undermined if you would accept evolution, then your reasons for believing in god seem perfectly in line what what you are actually asking in the OP.... being "how can you believe in god while believing in evolution?".


If your reasons for believing in a god aren't undermined by accepting evolution, then you have a potential answer to your question

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I would challenge you to prove otherwise.

That's not how this works.

You don't get to make a blatant claim and then say "prove me wrong".

Burden of proof... ever heard of it?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

How is it reasonable when by random chance, it could've been we never get seeds to farm things nor horses to ride or anything similar.

Good thing evolution isn't random then

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It's not a matter of making anyone squirm at all. But I would think that because many believe in the theory of evolution and God, I notice they insist on proclaiming that evolution is true, but zilch about why they believe in God IF they believe there is a God.

Maybe, just maybe, that is the case because evolution is a matter of evidence while god is a matter of faith?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

In agreement, while there are fossils of beings that are no longer in the same form (such as dinosaurs) there is zilch beyond theory to demonstrate the wherewithall (the distinct and slow process) by which dinosaurs, let's say, became little birds. Or -- better yet -- how fish evolved to become humans.

That is, if you ignore the fossil record, geographic distribution of species, genetics, etc.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Evolution is a process which is quite deliberate nothing random about it. God directs everything the wind,, rain and evolution. Only I believe man was always man and there is no evidence he is descended from apes.

Aside from the biological fact that humans ARE apes and while also ignoring the fossil record, genetics, etc.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If you ask an expert on evolution here, I have a feeling he or she will tell you that man according to the theory of evolution, did not descend from apes, but rather IS an ape

It is both.
Just like we descend from mammals and also are mammals.

and -- has an unknown common ancestor from which "apes" came...something like that. Maybe someone else can consider this though, perhaps go to a thread regarding evolution. Thank you for your response.

As explained a bazillion times already, one doesn't need to be able to identify a common ancestor to know that one existed.
Just like one can perfectly determine that 2 orphans share parents while it being completely unknown who those parents were or where they lived.
All we need is DNA from the offspring to determine they share ancestors.

 

[Maninthemiddle]

Perhaps God created evolution.