If you can read this in your native English-speaking tongue, you may be fat...

[s2a]

Yes, I said the un-PC word...“fat”.

Not some platitude or euphemistic alternative like: “chunky”, “big boned”. “husky”, or, “simply “curvy”, but FAT. OBESE. LARD ****.

Yes, you.

FAT. Not Just "round"... O B E S E (adjective:
grossly fat or overweight. - from Latin obesus ‘having eaten until fat,’)

Here’s the evidence:
Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2009–2010
•More than one-third of adults and almost 17% of youth were obese in 2009–2010.
•There was no change in the prevalence of obesity among adults or children from 2007–2008 to 2009–2010.
•Obesity prevalence did not differ between men and women.
•Adults aged 60 and over were more likely to be obese than younger adults.

Well, ha ha, it’s the old folks that skew the curve, right?

Well, there’s this too..

Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Well…the USA is the nation of insistent exceptionalism! So, wait for it…

Obesity (most recent) by country
Obesity statistics - countries compared - Nationmaster
Showing latest available data:
Rank**Countries* Amount*
# 1 *United States: 30.6%*
# 2 Mexico: 24.2%*
# 3 *United Kingdom: 23%*
# 4 *Slovakia: 22.4%*
# 5 *Greece: 21.9%*
# 6 *Australia: 21.7%*
# 7 *New Zealand: 20.9%*
# 8 *Hungary: 18.8%*
# 9 *Luxembourg: 18.4%*


Ok. let's hear it all you skinny patriots!

USA! USA! USA!

We kick *** when it comes to the largest lard-*** to kick! Woo hoo!

You can use this scale/measure to see how fat you are…
Calculate Your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

(I have a BMI of 24, so hardly a standard bearer of peak physical fitness… just so you know). But if your measure is over 30 bmi, the “government” considers you “obese”, with all the health risk factors that accompany that determination. It’s not about an satisfactory ego or self-image measure…just an evaluation standard of what constitutes being fat.

That’s all...

[Important note: There are nearly as many long-term heath risks and concerns associated with being underweight, that overweight].

This message brought to you by all the happy, confident, pleasant. gifted, and charming fat people under 35 that are now dead.

You can choose.

 

[YmirGF]

@ 5' 10 1/2 inches... they want me to be 130 lbs ... um, that's nuts. (I weighed that until I was about 30 or so... and looked SKINNY.)

 

[s2a]

@ 5' 10 1/2 inches... they want me to be 130 lbs ... um, that's nuts. (I weighed that until I was about 30 or so... and looked SKINNY.)

Tell me about it.

I'm 5'8", 155lbs =23.6 BMI

When I was 18, (same height) I was 185 lbs, but with a 29' waist and a 45" chest

ahhh, youth...

Do bear in mind that there are age modifiers in that equation

 

[methylatedghosts]

Pretty sure I'm 179cm tall, and I'm fairly certain I weigh 65kg. Gives me a BMI of 20.3.

Haven't measured in such a long time - haven't really had need to.

Though honestly, I thought I was leaning more towards underweight than I actually do.

 

[Bismillah]

Do you go out of your way to verbally attack people who live a life of constant reminders about their physical condition? Is this internet bravery or some other noble aspiration you are reaching with this post? You should rethink your approach and personal manner when it comes to anonymously attacking people over things they are reminded over everyday.

 

[Apex]

Yes, I said the un-PC word...“fat”.

Not some platitude or euphemistic alternative like: “chunky”, “big boned”. “husky”, or, “simply “curvy”, but FAT. OBESE. LARD ****.

Yes, you.

FAT. Not Just "round"... O B E S E (adjective:
grossly fat or overweight. - from Latin obesus ‘having eaten until fat,’)

Here’s the evidence:
Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2009–2010
•More than one-third of adults and almost 17% of youth were obese in 2009–2010.
•There was no change in the prevalence of obesity among adults or children from 2007–2008 to 2009–2010.
•Obesity prevalence did not differ between men and women.
•Adults aged 60 and over were more likely to be obese than younger adults.

Well, ha ha, it’s the old folks that skew the curve, right?

Well, there’s this too..

Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Well…the USA is the nation of insistent exceptionalism! So, wait for it…

Obesity (most recent) by country
Obesity statistics - countries compared - Nationmaster
Showing latest available data:
Rank**Countries* Amount*
# 1 *United States: 30.6%*
# 2 Mexico: 24.2%*
# 3 *United Kingdom: 23%*
# 4 *Slovakia: 22.4%*
# 5 *Greece: 21.9%*
# 6 *Australia: 21.7%*
# 7 *New Zealand: 20.9%*
# 8 *Hungary: 18.8%*
# 9 *Luxembourg: 18.4%*


Ok. let's hear it all you skinny patriots!

USA! USA! USA!

We kick *** when it comes to the largest lard-*** to kick! Woo hoo!

You can use this scale/measure to see how fat you are…
Calculate Your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

(I have a BMI of 24, so hardly a standard bearer of peak physical fitness… just so you know). But if your measure is over 30 bmi, the “government” considers you “obese”, with all the health risk factors that accompany that determination. It’s not about an satisfactory ego or self-image measure…just an evaluation standard of what constitutes being fat.

That’s all...

[Important note: There are nearly as many long-term heath risks and concerns associated with being underweight, that overweight].

This message brought to you by all the happy, confident, pleasant. gifted, and charming fat people under 35 that are now dead.

You can choose.

Just FYI, the BMI is an absolutley horrible standard to determine if you are obese.

 

[michel]

Yes, I said the un-PC word...“fat”.

Not some platitude or euphemistic alternative like: “chunky”, “big boned”. “husky”, or, “simply “curvy”, but FAT. OBESE. LARD ****.

Yes, you.

FAT. Not Just "round"... O B E S E (adjective:
grossly fat or overweight. - from Latin obesus ‘having eaten until fat,’)

Here’s the evidence:
Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2009–2010
•More than one-third of adults and almost 17% of youth were obese in 2009–2010.
•There was no change in the prevalence of obesity among adults or children from 2007–2008 to 2009–2010.
•Obesity prevalence did not differ between men and women.
•Adults aged 60 and over were more likely to be obese than younger adults.

Well, ha ha, it’s the old folks that skew the curve, right?

Well, there’s this too..

Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Well…the USA is the nation of insistent exceptionalism! So, wait for it…

Obesity (most recent) by country
Obesity statistics - countries compared - Nationmaster
Showing latest available data:
Rank**Countries* Amount*
# 1 *United States: 30.6%*
# 2 Mexico: 24.2%*
# 3 *United Kingdom: 23%*
# 4 *Slovakia: 22.4%*
# 5 *Greece: 21.9%*
# 6 *Australia: 21.7%*
# 7 *New Zealand: 20.9%*
# 8 *Hungary: 18.8%*
# 9 *Luxembourg: 18.4%*


Ok. let's hear it all you skinny patriots!

USA! USA! USA!

We kick *** when it comes to the largest lard-*** to kick! Woo hoo!

You can use this scale/measure to see how fat you are…
Calculate Your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

(I have a BMI of 24, so hardly a standard bearer of peak physical fitness… just so you know). But if your measure is over 30 bmi, the “government” considers you “obese”, with all the health risk factors that accompany that determination. It’s not about an satisfactory ego or self-image measure…just an evaluation standard of what constitutes being fat.

That’s all...

[Important note: There are nearly as many long-term heath risks and concerns associated with being underweight, that overweight].

This message brought to you by all the happy, confident, pleasant. gifted, and charming fat people under 35 that are now dead.

You can choose.

Long time no speak.........hope you are well!
Upto a year ago, I was Obese, and I was aware of that; I have struggled with weight all my life. However, at the age of err 63, I decided that if I was going to go into my "senior" years, I ought to get fit enough so as to minimise the problems brought on by weight problems.

I have a very strong will; when I chose to do something, I do it "properly".
I am 5'7" tall (I was nearer to 5'9" in my twenties and thirties, but Osteoporosis have made me "shrink"), and I weighed - at the worst - to 106 Kilos ugh.... I had a hip replacement during the spell of putting on weight, and I suppose my lack of mobility, waiting for the op didn't help.

I am now 74 kilos (I lost 10" waistline) - the same weight as my 28 year old son , but he says that I look skinny whereas he is definitely not.
Measuring my shoulders width, chest expansion, it lookjs as if I have, indeed, "bigger bones" than my son.

(loss of weight was less food, no alcohol (I have given that up), and as much excercise as I can manege, considering osteoporosis, severe osteo-arthritis, and the assorted aches and pains.

 

[Octavia156]

Obesity is surely a result of Our (modern) additction to sugar and carbohydrates?

Or could it be genetic?

 

[Nooj]

What's the point of this thread?

 

[Alceste]

I'm at the high end of normal. 24.4. Does that mean I should stop feeling fat?

This seems as good a place as any to say it's never to late to lose weight. I used to think there's not much point in me trying to shape up because I'm over 30. Then I watched a good friend who is over 50 lose a hundred pounds in less than a year. He put himself on a strict diet and went to the gym every day. I don't care about the way people look, but my friend has added many years to his life. I'm proud of him, and inspired.

... end anecdote.

 

[Draka]

BMI is a worthless and completely horrible way for people to judge their "ideal weight" and body size. It takes no account for frame size nor muscle mass/body fat percentage. It can easily tell someone who is muscular and fit that they are overweight or obese and someone who is flabby and unfit that they are healthy. It is the damn "ideal weight" charts and BMI charts that lead people to believe that they must near starve themselves to achieve some stupid goal that their body need not achieve. What a person need concern themselves with is how much fat they are carrying around. If they reach a healthy heartrate when they are working out. How much muscle mass they have. How much weight they are carrying in relation to their frame size and how much of that is muscle and how much is fat. Not if they hit a particular number on a scale because they are a particular height. Health is so much more than charts and bathroom scales.

 

[Falvlun]

Does America have an obesity problem? Absolutely. I don't see two ways around that fact. We need to move more, eat less, and eat better.

 

[Bismillah]

Does America have an obesity problem? Absolutely. I don't see two ways around that fact. We need to move more, eat less, and eat better.

Obesity is often linked with those in a lower socioeconomic class, as I have understood the simplified version it is often because cheap fast food is both nutritionally unhealthy and targeted to this subset of people who don't necessarily have time or the means to cook healthier food at home or buy more expensive healthier food. It creates a self-perpetuating cycle.

 

[Falvlun]

Obesity is often linked with those in a lower socioeconomic class, as I have understood the simplified version it is often because cheap fast food is both nutritionally unhealthy and targeted to this subset of people who don't necessarily have time or the means to cook healthier food at home or buy more expensive healthier food. It creates a self-perpetuating cycle.

That's definitely a problem too. Although, I do think some education in that matter would go a long way. I remember watching Food Inc, and they followed a poor family around to show what they can afford, to show how cheap food tends to be unhealthy food. But I also distinctly recall a scene where the family said they couldn't afford pears because they ended up being only 2 pears for a dollar, but when they went to McDonalds, the whole family got pop, which costs a buck per. You could easily fill bottles from tap water and a) save that money for the pears and b) not be drinking nasty corrosive, nutritionally valueless, fattening things. But I don't think that calculation crosses people's minds if they haven't grown up being taught like that.

Note that whenever I do go to a fast food place, I bring my own bottle and fill my water for free. Just so you guys know I'm practicing what I preach.

 

[Bismillah]

But I also distinctly recall a scene where the family said they couldn't afford pears because they ended up being only 2 pears for a dollar, but when they went to McDonalds, the whole family got pop, which costs a buck per. You could easily fill bottles from tap water and a) save that money for the pears and b) not be drinking nasty corrosive, nutritionally valueless, fattening things. But I don't think that calculation crosses people's minds if they haven't grown up being taught like that.

I agree targeted education like this would be an excellent initiative, I am not sure if this already exists in some form or not wouldn't be surprised if it did, but I think that as of right now it is not enough given the pervasiveness of this problem. I also wonder whether fast food restaurants like McDonalads would cooperate in something like this as I would imagine it would be a huge setback to their business model.

 

[Me Myself]

Do you go out of your way to verbally attack people who live a life of constant reminders about their physical condition? Is this internet bravery or some other noble aspiration you are reaching with this post? You should rethink your approach and personal manner when it comes to anonymously attacking people over things they are reminded over everyday.

Nonsense.

Calling out for reality is not an "attack", it is calling out for reality.

Suddenly, not telling the truth becomes offensive? I find THAT offensive.

 

[Me Myself]

BMI is a worthless and completely horrible way for people to judge their "ideal weight" and body size. It takes no account for frame size nor muscle mass/body fat percentage. It can easily tell someone who is muscular and fit that they are overweight or obese and someone who is flabby and unfit that they are healthy. It is the damn "ideal weight" charts and BMI charts that lead people to believe that they must near starve themselves to achieve some stupid goal that their body need not achieve. What a person need concern themselves with is how much fat they are carrying around. If they reach a healthy heartrate when they are working out. How much muscle mass they have. How much weight they are carrying in relation to their frame size and how much of that is muscle and how much is fat. Not if they hit a particular number on a scale because they are a particular height. Health is so much more than charts and bathroom scales.

That.

 

[Bismillah]

Calling out for reality is not an "attack", it is calling out for reality.

This "but FAT. OBESE. LARD ****" and "This message brought to you by all the happy, confident, pleasant. gifted, and charming fat people under 35 that are now dead." and this you think is not an attack? I hope you don't conduct yourself in this manner when approaching people.

Would it be appropriate for me to start abusively insulting an alcoholic or smoker? Do you think that is a productive or ethical way to help someone with a problem such as this?

 

[Kathryn]

BMI is indeed a pretty ridiculous way to try to find one's ideal weight.

My husband has massive shoulders and a very broad chest -as well as very muscular legs. He's actually considered significantly overweight if you use BMI, when in fact, he probably only needs to lose about 15 pounds (and my gosh, the man is 54 years old, cut him a break!).

I am tall (5'8") and muscular as well. Now - after over a year of casts and crutches and surgery, etc for a torn achilles tendon, I did gain about 15 pounds, and I was already a little fluffy (but definitely not obese). I just lost 13 pounds with WW and am going to try to lose a few more pounds, but to be honest, damn, I look pretty good for a 50 year old woman - and I feel fantastic.

I'm healthy and active and sensual and inquisitive and I enjoy life to the fullest. I love to cook and I enjoy entertaining. And I am never - NEVER - bored, hungover, sluggish, or depressed.

Screw BMI. If I could bottle and sell how good I feel, it would be a controlled substance because everyone would be having so much fun they'd never get any work done.

 

[Me Myself]

This "but FAT. OBESE. LARD ****" and "This message brought to you by all the happy, confident, pleasant. gifted, and charming fat people under 35 that are now dead." and this you think is not an attack? I hope you don't conduct yourself in this manner when approaching people.

I think it is a pretty obvious form of sounding the alarm to a problem that is indeed very alarming, and an accurate way of reminding people that "nah, that happens to othr fat people, not me." HAS killed before.