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If you have to choose between two types of women (rebellion vs obedience)

Which one you prefere to spend your life with ?


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Marisa

Well-Known Member

in our society we divide the duty in general in gender, so excuse me i miss undertand Kirran post .

so you may know now, how we divide the duties .

just curious why you did not comment on #217
I did. With the post you are objecting to with the above.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Yes, this is what I object to. I think it is bad that gender roles are prevalent in so many societies. I am against that.
how about strippers , is not that using a gender by money ?

and plus still in West , a women sold their body to live ; it's regular function .

and plus call to get a girl for sex in some TV channels and Internet websites .
 

Kirran

Premium Member
how about strippers , is not that using a gender by money ?

and plus still in West , a women sold their body to live ; it's regular function .

and plus call to get a girl for sex in some TV channels and Internet websites .

Yup. These things are bad, IMO. The West is definitely not perfect.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
how about strippers , is not that using a gender by money ?

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Well to be fair, Strippers are an equal opportunity workforce. Strippers can be either male or female. So........no. It is not gender by money as gender does not disqualify someone from doing the job. The client stripper relationship is based on gender preference though. But not the same preference for everyone and occasionally done more so as a joke. For example, I had this friend who was always being mistaken as homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that.) But it became something of a running joke among close friends, to the point where his mates hired a male stripper as a joke to tease him on his bucks night.
That might sound a tad....harsh. But twas all in good fun and they even paid the stripper extra for his trouble.

and plus still in West , a women sold their body to live ; it's regular function .

There has probably been many a man to do that too. That's usually associated with drug addiction, though. Which is bad anyway. So..........

and plus call to get a girl for sex in some TV channels and Internet websites.

In the west you can do this with a man as well. Just FYI.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Well to be fair, Strippers are an equal opportunity workforce. Strippers can be either male or female. So........no. It is not gender by money as gender does not disqualify someone from doing the job. The client stripper relationship is based on gender preference though. But not the same preference for everyone and occasionally done more so as a joke. For example, I had this friend who was always being mistaken as homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that.) But it became something of a running joke among close friends, to the point where his mates hired a male stripper as a joke to tease him on his bucks night.
That might sound a tad....harsh. But twas all in good fun and they even paid the stripper extra for his trouble.



There has probably been many a man to do that too. That's usually associated with drug addiction, though. Which is bad anyway. So..........



In the west you can do this with a man as well. Just FYI.
i know that , In general , and about percentage , the women are more , which could be 99% for women to 1% for men .

do you have other virtual percentage which disagree with mine ?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
i know that , In general , and about percentage , the women are more , which could be 99% for women to 1% for men .

do you have other virtual percentage which disagree with mine ?

Actually it's 92% female and men 8% roughly, but varies from place to place. Male strippers are becoming more and more commonplace as ideals and stigma are being removed from various sexualities and male strippers in general.

But that doesn't change the fact that strippers are not only female, which is what your other comment implied. Making it, by definition, not "gender by money."
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
I admire this kind of question :)

1- obedience is all orders in serious issues and demands that's depend in it's importance.


2- rebellion of all orders and demands .
because it's could be harm our relation.

btw i mean by "order" is importand request than demand .

like "Don't open the door to strange people " .


demand is like if she prepare a lunch , i ask her to prepare for me ,my farvorite food .
Base on which rules/knowledge/book do we know which issues/request/demands is serious/important or not?

Base on which rules/knowledge/book do we know which decision is the right/correct/perfect decisions for that [serious/important] issues/request/demands?

Which rules/knowledge/book have the complete list of which issues/request/demands is serious/important, which is not serious/important, and have the right/correct/perfect corresponding decision for them?

maybe you misunderstand my definition about rebellious and obedient wife , check #85

there all kinds of relation in world , even husband obey his wife .because he love her to death .

so this matter run with the personality of couple .

post #85
obedient : which care about her husband , and take care of him and his house and his kids ,
This is reasonable, but the details of how the wife can be consider to having "care about her husband , and take care of him and his house and his kids" is debatable and the standard may vary from people to people.
and do his normal requests ,
Base on which rules/knowledge/book do we know which request is normal or not?

Base on which rules/knowledge/book do we know which decision is the right/correct/perfect decisions for that normal request?

Which rules/knowledge/book have the complete list of which request is normal and which is not normal, and have the right/correct/perfect corresponding decision for them?
and informe him about her movements (for exemple If she want to go out to visit her family , she inform him) ,
This is reasonable if the husband's intentions is just that he care for the wife's safety; but unreasonable if the husband think that if the wife don't tell him where she is going to then she must be cheating him with someone else.
she respect and value that he goes out to work and suffered for make her live better life .
This is reasonable, but the details of how the wife can be consider to having "respect and value that he goes out to work and suffered for make her live better life" is debatable and the standard may vary from people to people.

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rebellious : opposite which above ,
The opposite as is:

(which don't care about her husband)
- If she don't care about her husband, then why they get married?

(and don't take care of him and his house and his kids)
- This is reasonable but debatable depends on the standard/situation.

(and don't do his normal requests)
- Where can we find the guide of complete list of whether which request is normal or not, and the right/correct/perfect corresponding decision for that normal request? If the wife think that the "normal request" from her husband is not normal and is unreasonable, what do they do?

(and don't informe him about her movements (for exemple If she want to go out to visit her family , she don't inform him)
- This is reasonable if the husband's intentions is just that he care for the wife's safety, but unreasonable if the husband think that if the wife don't tell him where she is going to then she must be cheating him with someone else.

(she don't respect and value that he goes out to work and suffered for make her live better life)
- This is reasonable but debatable depends on the standard/situation.
and plus rebellious woman for me , is once which had no problem to cheat on or seduce others ,
Regardless of husband or wife, that is a common moral that cheating is immoral if they've their agreement to loyal to each other before they get married.
If they can't agree to make that agreement, then maybe they shouldn't get married.
or disrespect her husband
This is reasonable but debatable depends on the standard/situation.
, and argue for everything " trouble maker" , which the marriage for her is worth ZERO ,i mean the couple relation for her is like , log in , log out .
The husband know this behavior before or after marriage?

If he knows this before marriage but still marry the girl, then he should blame himself.

If he knows this after marriage, then he should just politely discuss the matter with her wife in a peaceful way. If they really can't put up with each other, then divorce is the solution for them.
 
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