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If You Knew There Were No God

PackJason

I make up facts.
Hinduism is blatantly false. First off Lord Brahma had incest with his own daughter. Firstly, Gods do not need daughters. Second, why would a God have incest with his own daughter. If you say it was at a time that it was normal then Lord Brahma is not God because he is not all-knowing. Obviously, Hinduism is false.
Christianity is also false. In the Bible, it says insects have 4 legs but mistaken and has no knowledge as we know insects have 6 legs.

Meh, and Muhammad diddled a pubescent girl. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
 

turk179

I smell something....
If you knew with 100% certainty that there is no god(s), would you behave any differently or live your life in a different manner? (aside from attending mass/service/etc)

Would you treat people differently?
The way I behave really wouldn't change at all. My personality is what it is. Belief or lack thereof wont change that. I try to just be a good person. Sometimes I'm more successful at it than others but I'm sure that people who believe in Gods/Goddesses have their good and bad days too.

The true religion is islam i have proof the following;
At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.
But if you found out that there was no god......? Interesting information though.

Hinduism is blatantly false. First off Lord Brahma had incest with his own daughter. Firstly, Gods do not need daughters. Second, why would a God have incest with his own daughter. If you say it was at a time that it was normal then Lord Brahma is not God because he is not all-knowing. Obviously, Hinduism is false.
Christianity is also false. In the Bible, it says insects have 4 legs but mistaken and has no knowledge as we know insects have 6 legs.
I'm pretty sure I could quote Islamic scriptures and say that's why Islam is false too. What's the point though.

They are not convincing points? Are you brainwashed? There is no way a God would have incest with his own daughter if you are an hindi and if you are Buddhist you are even more brainwashed. Why would you pray to creation? There is one creator, Allah.
They are not convincing points because the OP asked would you change your behavior if you found out there was no god.

How are you both an Atheist and Buddhist? You are very brainwashed. @LuisDantas
I assume because of the brainwashed comment that you've never heard of an atheistic Buddhist?

Hinduism is man- made there is no way it is accurate.
Aren't all religions man made?
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Aren't all religions man made?

...kind of...? but... not really... ish? That's actually a far more complex and complicated topic than it might seem at first. Heck, exploring it is a great way to bring up the question of what religion even is in the first place, and whether it's even an appropriate category for a lot of traditions we lump under it.
 

turk179

I smell something....
...kind of...? but... not really... ish? That's actually a far more complex and complicated topic than it might seem at first. Heck, exploring it is a great way to bring up the question of what religion even is in the first place, and whether it's even an appropriate category for a lot of traditions we lump under it.
Ya know, that particular thought danced across my mind after I posted that. Good point.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
All religions are not man made, we believe Islam was from the beginning of man creation, and that God made it. This is a big misconception
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
All religions are not man made, we believe Islam was from the beginning of man creation, and that God made it. This is a big misconception

English isn't your first language, is it?

I know you didn't intend it, but you just called Islam's belief about this matter a "misconception."
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Just because it is not a part of the topic does not mean that it is not convincing. Get your facts checked. Btw thank you @turk179 for actually appreciating my truth. That info is really accurate and if there was no god, then thats the truth however that is not the case because there is proof of existence of God. Therefore, i remain a believer of God and Islam due to the research and evidence i have gathered.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
@Riverwolf Again with another misconception you just made. I said when you said all religions are kind of man made.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I said the misconception was when you said all religions are kind of man made, not to my islamic belief. All of you are misconcepting what i am saying, either it is your low level of intellect or a different way of thinking does not matter.
 

turk179

I smell something....
Just because it is not a part of the topic does not mean that it is not convincing. Get your facts checked. Btw thank you @turk179 for actually appreciating my truth. That info is really accurate and if there was no god, then thats the truth however that is not the case because there is proof of existence of God. Therefore, i remain a believer of God and Islam due to the research and evidence i have gathered.
To be honest, I just said "interesting information" to be nice. I didn't really appreciate it at all. But at least you had the decency to point out that it was your truth and not the truth. That is a very big distinction in my opinion.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
@Riverwolf Again with another misconception you just made. I said when you said all religions are kind of man made.

More accurately, I said "kind of but not really-ish."

Since English is clearly not your first language, I'll try to explain as simply as I can what I mean.

Under the current accepted definitions, there are literally HUNDREDS of religions. However, the vast majority of them are indigenous. They do not have any known "starting point" nor do they have any known "founders". They're just there. Sure, these religions are continuously changing over time, but that's just like anything else.

Furthermore, religious behavior seems like it's inherent to being human.

Therefore, calling these indigenous religions "man-made" is kind of like calling spoken languages, or various cultures, "man-made." It might technically be true, but it communicates the wrong thing; "man-made" usually implies that something was deliberately constructed by an individual or group, with a stated plan and goal in mind. These indigenous religions (some examples of which are Shinto and Tengrism) simply arose organically and in tandem with their respective cultures.
 
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Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
So you finally admit your misconception. Anyhow, saying it is not really-ish but kind of means you are still in doubt. You are admitting that these indigenous religions are man-made but then you say it communicates the wrong thing? You are basically agreeing with me. Or is it that you do not understand the definition of man-made or either you are arrogant. @Riverwolf
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
But i then explain furthermore by stating i follow the Quran, meaning that it is not mine actually. When i said my truth, it was not intended to what you thought.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I can see your arrogance because you replied to the comment that i had a typo in, meaning you are desperate to find a lack in what i said. Humans make mistakes. @Riverwolf
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Anyhow, saying it is not really-ish but kind of means you are still in doubt.

Of course I am. Doubt is healthy. Doubt means that there's still lots and lots more to learn, more room to grow. Doubt is a good thing to have.

You are admitting that these indigenous religions are man-made but then you say it communicates the wrong thing? You are basically agreeing with me.

Not really, because I didn't mention how I classify non-indigenous religions.

Religions that have known historical starting points, and known human founders, are not indigenous, and therefore are absolutely man-made. Among these man-made religions are Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism. Rather than being intrinsically tied to a culture and having no historical starting points, they were created at specific times to serve specific purposes by specific individuals/groups.

And in case you're wondering, the religion I follow is also man-made (even though inspired by a group of long-dead indigenous religions.)

Or is it that you do not understand the definition of man-made

I certainly don't understand what it means in your language and culture, but I know perfectly well what it means in mine.

or either you are arrogant. @Riverwolf

Which, if true, would be relevant... why?

Humans make mistakes. @Riverwolf

Something you'd do well to remember before making irrelevant assertions about the people you're debating (also known as argumentum ad hominim).
 

turk179

I smell something....
But i then explain furthermore by stating i follow the Quran, meaning that it is not mine actually. When i said my truth, it was not intended to what you thought.
Bummer. I did not see the correlation between "my truth" and "the Quran" as being "the truth". Because there are many people who probably disagree with the concept of the Quran being "the truth", me being one of them, I guess I still don't see the correlation.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think religion would stop being so stupid and finally adapt to be more pantheistic and naturalistic. It wouldn't really change for me other than I'd have to adapt to some new language to explain what I do/believe.

I wouldn't act too different if any.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Now you are just insulting me @turk179 @Riverwolf If your religion is man-made then it has errors. Quran is divine. If you agree that your religion has errors then that proves my point that Islam is the true religion with no errors unless you can prove me wrong which i doubt. Turk179, you have no proof that your beliefs are correct or accurate at all, i have evidence.
 
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