If your deity asked you to kill your child, would you do it?

[popsthebuilder]

Ok so why does Allah feel it necessary to force people to convert under the threat of death?

He sounds like an *******.

It's not a threat of death. All life will die. Their is a part of us that is life, and selfless and giving and compassionate, there is a part that is insidiously greedy, decisive, manipulative and evil. One brings continued life(not for self necessarily but as a whole), the other brings the opposite. God's or d is a warning of our potential and a good tiding of it as well.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Death and sacrifice of a child (Isaac) and of the innocent (christ) to be a test or means of salvation for man kind.

It sounds cruel; and, I feel that is barbaric.

God could think of other means to test. Christians throughout history have focused on death--death of non believers, death of innocent, death in general. Its ironic to use death to bring life.

Other religions focus on life. Death is not a means of salvation but living life in their faith is.

I completely disagree with how christianity sees death being a literal sacrifice of an animal and person.

That is barbaric.

That is a flaw of interpretation, often made by Jew, and Christian. The One Creator GOD is a God of life.

Even the story of the Christ is one of life.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Why not?

We live to continue life to the best of our ability. The best way to d that is to remove greed. If you live just for self gratification th n when you die that's it. But if you strive to do all you can to positively influence peaceful prosperity and United advancement then your actually adding worth to life, to me, anyway.

One cant do all that if they disvalue their life and others in favor of god.

Sacrificing a child and anyone for that matter shouldnt cross your mind. If god gave you life and he told you to take it, wouldnt you see that as a contradiction of what his promise ans purpose is? People say god cant change his mind. If he said for you to kill, he doesnt value life.

I dont see any good intentions in a person and deity who does not value life "to the point of taking that life"m

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

It's not a threat of death. All life will die. Their is a part of us that is life, and selfless and giving and compassionate, there is a part that is insidiously greedy, decisive, manipulative and evil. One brings continued life(not for self necessarily but as a whole), the other brings the opposite. God's or d is a warning of our potential and a good tiding of it as well.

But wouldn't Allah be also torturing them forever after their deaths for refusing to join a religion with no evidence at the point of a sword?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

That is a flaw of interpretation, often made by Jew, and Christian. The One Creator GOD is a God of life.

Even the story of the Christ is one of life.

Yes because all other interpretations but yours are flaws....

 

[popsthebuilder]

Oh but I thought the deity did not conform to man?

Not sure what you mean.

It is known that GOD is immutable but that times and civilizations change. Also; if the original testament was interpreted correctly then there would have been no need for another one. God doesn't change, nor has his message. However, even enlightened men can be manipulated by greed.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

That is a flaw of interpretation, often made by Jew, and Christian. The One Creator GOD is a God of life.

Even the story of the Christ is one of life.

Thats a contradiction to him asking anyone to take a life.

I personally believe god IS life. He didnt create it. He is not a person. Death comes natually through him as so does birth.

The god of christianity has a personality. He created life. To ask someone to take it completely contradicts your comment. If god is life it js impossible to ask anyone to take it.

Life/death are one. Natual. Taking it is defeating our natual purpose. To be born, live, age, sickness, death. No choice. No command.

That is what god is: life.

 

[use_your_brain]

And why do you think your religion is correct?

I don't think, but I know my religion is correct. If my religion were incorrect then I would no longer follow it.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Its unattractive to be a part of the christian faith at all. We all have our faults but to base our life on them is different indeed.

What are you trying to say exactly?

Not sure if you are assuming I'm Christian or what.

I believe in universal reconciliation. Many tenets of my beliefs actually parallel Buddhism.

Please do not compare me to a stereotypical "Christian" or my beliefs on the erroneous misdirection or the doctrines of man. Thank you, with humility.

Peace

 

[popsthebuilder]

One cant do all that if they disvalue their life and others in favor of god.

Sacrificing a child and anyone for that matter shouldnt cross your mind. If god gave you life and he told you to take it, wouldnt you see that as a contradiction of what his promise ans purpose is? People say god cant change his mind. If he said for you to kill, he doesnt value life.

I dont see any good intentions in a person and deity who does not value life "to the point of taking that life"m

I agree and don't condone violence or any sacrifice of another being.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Not sure what you mean.

It is known that GOD is immutable but that times and civilizations change. Also; if the original testament was interpreted correctly then there would have been no need for another one. God doesn't change, nor has his message. However, even enlightened men can be manipulated by greed.

Yes it has.

Yahweh = War

Yeshua = Peace

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I don't think, but I know my religion is correct. If my religion were incorrect then I would no longer follow it.

What lead you to your conclusion?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What are you trying to say exactly?

Not sure if you are assuming I'm Christian or what.

I believe in universal reconciliation. Many tenets of my beliefs actually parallel Buddhism.

Please do not compare me to a stereotypical "Christian" or my beliefs on the erroneous misdirection or the doctrines of man. Thank you, with humility.

Peace

Your flow of argument and opinion mirrors a christian not a buddhist. A buddhist would never take a life. To have an opinion (tbough not your faith) that one should based on christian doctrine--if that is what I am "hearing"--is completely against buddhism.

I say that because I am a Buddhist. So, going out of my view to see someone agree to take a life even in analogy or sholarly conversation apalles me.

 

[popsthebuilder]

But wouldn't Allah be also torturing them forever after their deaths for refusing to join a religion with no evidence at the point of a sword?

There's plenty of evidence. Just not through third party interpretation. And no, firstly God does not threaten literal physical death to any. Secondly God is Just and righteous. None will punished unfairly. All the mention of eternal damnation is reserved for those special few who actually gain knowledge of God by its will, yet actively turn from it, also leading others astray.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Yes because all other interpretations but yours are flaws....

Not at all. Why do you seem angry with me?

 

[use_your_brain]

What lead you to your conclusion?

I know my religion is correct because my Quran has no error, the biography of my prophet is amazing, the moral teaching of my religion is wonderful, the scientific content of its scriptural texts, the miracles, prophesies, historical evidences, and so on.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Not at all. Why do you seem angry with me?

Im not angry, just disappointed.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Thats a contradiction to him asking anyone to take a life.

I personally believe god IS life. He didnt create it. He is not a person. Death comes natually through him as so does birth.

The god of christianity has a personality. He created life. To ask someone to take it completely contradicts your comment. If god is life it js impossible to ask anyone to take it.

Life/death are one. Natual. Taking it is defeating our natual purpose. To be born, live, age, sickness, death. No choice. No command.

That is what god is: life.

God wouldn't ask you to literally take a life. And again we agree. Though I don't feel that life is the utter fullness of GOD, I do agree with your statement.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I know my religion is correct because my Quran has no error, the biography of my prophet is amazing, the moral teaching of my religion is wonderful, the scientific content of its scriptural texts, the miracles, prophesies, historical evidences, and so on.

Can you show any historical evidences?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

God is life. He cant tell someone to take a life he is a part of. Thats lkke rippinng gods heart out.