If your deity asked you to kill your child, would you do it?

[popsthebuilder]

The universe is no proof at all that there was a God, that made it all, a God that sits up there somewhere judging all that he has made, and getting quite upset over something's, .............lets face it, it does sound far fetched to say the least.

What is far fetched is assuming all existence came about from absolutely nothing.
Even natural laws had to be formed.

 

[psychoslice]

Excuse me?

I haven't made my mind up. It was made for me. I was an atheist for over twenty years. Your barking up the wrong tree.

But again, as long a your happy, as I am happy believe where I am, and if we both are happy, then why even argue.

 

[psychoslice]

What is far fetched is assuming all existence came about from absolutely nothing.
Even natural laws had to be formed.

Your thinking like a two years old, you are putting a God into that which you have no answer for, we and you included will probably never truly know how everything got here, but again that is no reason to make up a God that did it all, that is to me not very intelligent way of thinking..............yep, can't think of an answer, well, lets just put God in there, solved lol.

 

[Draka]

Attempted murder is when someone tries and fails. Abraham never fully tried and was stopped by an Angel. He was blessed because he didn't question the command of GOD, and it paid off, though he would have sacrificed us son out of Faith in GOD he didn't have to.

If someone tries, begins to do something, and someone stops them, that still counts as tried and failed. It was an attempt. It was an attempt enough that he had to be stopped. If he didn't try, didn't attempt, there would have been no need to stop him. You say he didn't question the command of god, yet if that is so, then he did indeed attempt to kill his son. So why do you say that he didn't?

 

[Etritonakin]

Apparently, Abraham would have done it -but did not believe he would have to. It was about Abraham knowing God as well as God knowing Abraham.

Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

 

[Thief]

What test be better than telling a father to kill his child?

It could be anything sane. Im sure god is creative to think of test and punishment without death.

shift your perspective.....we are questioning the motives of God

you (God )....want to find a man that favors Spirit above all other things..
ALL other things.

in the world of Abram there is nothing more important than.... a son.

what a man has in this world is more important than God?

 

[Thief]

The universe is no proof at all that there was a God, that made it all.

cause and effect....
God is the Cause and the universe (one word) is the effect.

 

[RRex]

Free Starbucks for the rest of your life?

Tempting, but no. I'm not really a SB fan. Once you've roasted your own beans you never go back.

I don't think I'd kill my kid if I had one.

What kind of whacko supreme being asks such a thing of its follower just to prove the follower loves it?

Pretty damn sick if you ask me.

 

[Thief]

Tempting, but no. I'm not really a SB fan. Once you've roasted your own beans you never go back.

I don't think I'd kill my kid if I had one.

What kind of whacko supreme being asks such a thing of its follower just to prove the follower loves it?

Pretty damn sick if you ask me.

you haven't been reading this thread.....or...
your personal opinion is greater than God's.......?

 

[RRex]

you haven't been reading this thread.....or...
your personal opinion is greater than God's.......?

I'm answering a question I was asked.

And I don't give a rip what God thinks.

He dumped me on this godforsaken rock with an abusive mother, chronic illness, and in the middle of a society run amok.

I don't give a damn what God thinks. He hasn't lifted a finger to help anyone. He doesn't deserve the time of day let alone my fealty.

 

[psychoslice]

cause and effect....
God is the Cause and the universe (one word) is the effect.

Why does God need to be the cause, why even use the word God. like what really is it ?.

 

[Thief]

I'm answering a question I was asked.

And I don't give a rip what God thinks.

He dumped me on this godforsaken rock with an abusive mother, chronic illness, and in the middle of a society run amok.

I don't give a damn what God thinks. He hasn't lifted a finger to help anyone. He doesn't deserve the time of day let alone my fealty.

and I grew up in the housing projects of a mid=sized city.....

life on this planet has always been a struggle.....look forward to a better afterlife.

 

[Thief]

Why does God need to be the cause, why even use the word God. like what really is it ?.

kinda hard to say...I AM!.....with out proof

 

[RRex]

and I grew up in the housing projects of a mid=sized city.....

life on this planet has always been a struggle.....look forward to a better afterlife.

Based on my life up to this point I have absolutely zero expectations of the afterlife.

Color me cynical.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Abraham never fully tried and was stopped by an Angel.

He attempted. Thats the point.

He was blessed because he didn't question the command of GOD, and it paid off, though he would have sacrificed us son out of Faith in GOD he didn't have to.

He was blessed for attempted murder.

It cant be justified. Its the christian/judaism/muslim teaching. How do you find wisdom in an innocent persons death?

 

[RRex]

He was blessed for attempted murder.

Does no one see the absurdity of this?

This book has been worshipped for hundreds of years as the word of God. It reads like a psychopath's journal.

Sorry. Kind of off topic. I'm just incredulous.

 

[Thief]

Does no one see the absurdity of this?

This book has been worshipped for hundreds of years as the word of God. It reads like a psychopath's journal.

Sorry. Kind of off topic. I'm just incredulous.

it's all a mind game....that's for sure....

gotta see through the pitfalls.....

 

[psychoslice]

kinda hard to say...I AM!.....with out proof

I feel the cosmos has always been, we are probably only one in many, but it needs no label, for we as this little speck of dust on this rock called earth could never possibly know, in fact we are part of the cosmos, collectively all is God, until you start separating it and labelling each part, and making up all sorts of theories, and wonderful words, and making idols out of that concept, such as religion.

 

[RRex]

I feel the cosmos has always been, we are probably only one in many, but it needs no label, for we as this little speck of dust on this rock called earth could never possibly know, in fact we are part of the cosmos, collectively all is God, until you start separating it and labelling each part, and making up all sorts of theories, and wonderful words, and making idols out of that concept, such as religion.

That's interesting.

You just made me realize that God is a black hole. Everything goes in but nothing ever comes out.

 

[psychoslice]

That's interesting.

You just made me realize that God is a black hole. Everything goes in but nothing ever comes out.

What seems to come out is an illusion.