Ignorance on the Left hand path and magic. Avoiding the type of people that commit sick things.

[Saint Frankenstein]

The very founding members of the circle that created the church of Satan had serious occult inclinations.

Yes, some of them did. Probably not LaVey himself, though, who appears to have only been nothing more than a hack.

You are misinformed. Further, how do you compare this to gods like Prometheus and Melek Taus, who played similar roles and were forgiven and worshipped? Surely you don't think Prometheus was made after the 1960s!

Of course not. Which only goes to show that Western Left Hand Path concepts are not really outside of the mainstream of Western culture, which was my point.

 

[1137]

Yes, some of them did. Probably not LaVey himself, though, who appears to have only been nothing more than a hack.

Of course not. Which only goes to show that Western Left Hand Path concepts are not really outside of the mainstream of Western culture, which was my point.

If something was unrelated to your culture it would hardly make sense to you, let alone benefit you in highly specific ways. It's why easterners laugh at us in the west when we try and practice their religion. How would the symbolism of something like Satan ever benefit a group that has no such symbol? In fact, manipulating culture to fit your needs is something I'd consider "greater black magic".

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If something was unrelated to your culture it would hardly make sense to you, let alone benefit you in highly specific ways. It's why easterners laugh at us in the west when we try and practice their religion. How would the symbolism of something like Satan ever benefit a group that has no such symbol? In fact, manipulating culture to fit your needs is something I'd consider "greater black magic".

My point is that almost nothing in the Western Left Hand Path is found outside of the mainstream of Western thought and mainstream Western society. There isn't all that much that separates it from the Western "RHP". Both have their dogmas, both view humans as having some special importance (at least with Setianism and some other forms of theistic Satanism and Luciferianism), both are against physical/actual/objective antinomianism (i.e. they would object in totality to things such as bestiality, necrophilia, cannibalism, murder, etc.) and both have some version or degree of dualism. LaVey, Aquino or abstract figures such as Set are treated with pretty much unquestioning reverence, that they have become cult figures. Setianism itself, at least the Temple of Set version, is basically the Western LHP equivalent of Islam since it is based on alleged channeled messages from an entity calling itself Set, which bears little appearance to the ancient Egyptian deity (which, by the way, implicitly entails accepting such false Biblical details such as the Exodus and the Jew's sojourn in Egypt). I don't see much questioning of Aquino's alleged channeled messages. Why is that?

 

[Kapalika]

I would like to ask everyone of different religions here to not try to act as an authority on the beliefs, spiritual intentions or practices of others.

It would seem that some here are confusing several distinct schools of Hindu thought. There is no singular "Hindu Orthodoxy" and not all Orthodox schools are even similar. It's simply an umbrella term for a subset of Dharmic religions.

This is further multiplied when it goes to the Left Hand Path Dharmic sects.

I would like to re-emphasize that I and others feel that our religion(s) are being misrepresented.

If it is true as many have said that the Left Hand Path is different for everyone as it's so diverse then it stands to reason that no one can say that all "western" or "eastern" left hand path is different, the same, or really attribute much of any quality without comparing discrete systems in a conversation with adherents of both systems/religions. So far I have seen assertions about the so called "eastern" left hand path that are insisted upon despite contradiction by actual adherents of this so called "eastern" left hand path.

I've asked the staff to resolve this persisting issue and how it should be handled in the LHP DIR as it is continued even after the last thread was moved to the debates. In the meantime I'd like to ask all of us to simply to agree to disagree and wait on a staff consensus.

 

[EtuMalku]

No, that's not correct. @Mandi and I keep repeating ourselves but people don't seem to want to listen and keeping copying+pasting their misconceptions over and over. The goal isn't really unification like in terms of some hive mind concept, but expansion of consciousness. Our individual awareness isn't dissolved into anything. We're all manifestations of Brahman experiencing itself as points of individual awareness. We're already God, but the point is to realize it consciously. In our view, God is our True Self and we seek to realize that. We don't believe in a dualism between ourselves and the universe, because the universe (or cosmos) is all there is. It's the complete sphere that emcompasses all existence. I'm a Shakta. "Shaktism" translates to "doctrine of power" and "doctrine of the Goddess". Shakti is the dynamic, transformative power of existence that is viewed as the supreme power of the cosmos, which underlies everything. Shaktism views Shakti as Brahman, in other words. Shakti is envisioned as a feminine force and so is worshipped as the Goddess. (The Feminine is viewed as active, and the Masculine is viewed as passive. The Feminine is the Source and the Masculine comes from the Feminine, just as we see in the reproduction of animals which sexually reproduce.) Whichever Goddess you like most can represent Shakti to you. For me it's Kali, since She represents Shakti and the cosmos as a whole the best in my view.

In Shaktism, you seek to consciously raise and nurture this powerful, intense energy in yourself. Metaphorically, this is viewed as the Kundalini Serpent raising through the spiritual centers of the chakras until the Serpent unites with the Crown chakra and Enlightenment/Liberation is attained. That is when God-consciousness is realized.

The ego that you lose is the all the limited views of yourself that embodiment tends to bring on. The attachment to the body, fear of death, the identification of the Self with the mask we wear in this (i.e. I'm not really Frank, that's just a mask I'm wearing during this experience). THAT is what will be dissolved, yes. The body and your limited identity now are temporary. They will be crushed in the jaws of Time as the wheel ceaselessly rotates. But the point of awareness that is Divinity manifest, which is what we are all really are, is eternal. It was never formed and can never be destroyed. It merely transforms.

"Jai Kali Ma!

What mind can possibly approach you,
Much less grasp you, my beloved Kali!
This ordinary mind long for you to be simple,
predictable, easily appreciated, a sweet divinity,
a demure goddess, lovely to look at, engendering kindness.
Instead you parade forth in gruesome reality,
unabashed you unleash your limitless creative power,
thrilling the mind and body
with overwhelming sensual delights,
propelling the spirit into awe-inspiring
transcendent domains and
crushing us all in your jaws of time, decay and suffering.

You gave birth to ignorance and her offspring,
“lacking this” and “wanting that” populate the universe.
Is there nothing you don’t delight in creating?
How is this poor mind ever going to truly worship you?
I set out to circumambulate your divine form,
to do puja to you,
but lifetimes of effort have left me gasping,
seeing your infinitude spread out in all directions,
my mind and heart quiver
with fear and adoration, longing for annihilation in you
my beloved.

You demand full and total sacrifice,
not flower garlands and coins tossed at a statue,
not merely lighting candles and prostrating piously,
not sitting still as a corpse lost in the illusion
of inside and outside,
No, you delight in swallowing all sense of separation,
offer me your individuality you say,
offer up your ego mind,
offer up the waking, dream and deep sleep states!

This yoga is only for the insane
drunk on the nectar of Divine Love.
If you drink from the Holy Grail
you will drown in the end."

Again, the ego, the sense of separation, the individuality you lose are the perspective of limitation. In exchange, you gain infinity. You are God.

The antinomianism comes in because the non-dualism of such a view tends to frighten the conscious mind. So sometimes the mind needs a shock in order to truly comprehend such things. Which can lead to practices like cannibalism, convorting with corpses and even killing people. Philosophically, it can lead to forms of nihilism, too, as your mind opens to all-possibility and you reject the limited views of the human ape species on a tiny dustball. You realize there is no intrinsic purpose or meaning to anything. It just is. You can create your own path. You can just enjoy life in the moment, as it is. Death isn't viewed as a big deal. We're here one moment and gone the next. There is nothing you are beholden to in terms of social strictures. You are free.

(Note: This concepts are hard to put into words and I'm just at the beginning of learning all of this. So I may not be explaining some things as best as they can be explained. But I can only speak for myself, really.)

I said "basically" . . . look this is not that difficult, Eastern LHP is not the same as Western LHP, if you are not seeking to consciously preserve and strengthen one’s isolate consciousness against the objective universe then you are not on the Western LHP. There is no 'proximity' to any external deity or merging with one.

 

[EtuMalku]

I would like to ask everyone of different religions here to not try to act as an authority on the beliefs, spiritual intentions or practices of others.

It would seem that some here are confusing several distinct schools of Hindu thought. There is no singular "Hindu Orthodoxy" and not all Orthodox schools are even similar. It's simply an umbrella term for a subset of Dharmic religions.

This is further multiplied when it goes to the Left Hand Path Dharmic sects.

I would like to re-emphasize that I and others feel that our religion(s) are being misrepresented.

If it is true as many have said that the Left Hand Path is different for everyone as it's so diverse then it stands to reason that no one can say that all "western" or "eastern" left hand path is different, the same, or really attribute much of any quality without comparing discrete systems in a conversation with adherents of both systems/religions. So far I have seen assertions about the so called "eastern" left hand path that are insisted upon despite contradiction by actual adherents of this so called "eastern" left hand path.

I've asked the staff to resolve this persisting issue and how it should be handled in the LHP DIR as it is continued even after the last thread was moved to the debates. In the meantime I'd like to ask all of us to simply to agree to disagree and wait on a staff consensus.

This is a LHP DIR . . . meaning Western Left Hand Path Directory . . . meaning 'other' religions need to accept our beliefs when discussing here
Yeh yeah, we all know there is a plethora of Hindu sects, but they all fall into one of two categories
1) merging with / atoning with the Absolute / Brahman
2) relating to the Absolute / Beloved through proximity

Neither of these are the Western Left Hand Path

 

[EtuMalku]

My point is that almost nothing in the Western Left Hand Path is found outside of the mainstream of Western thought and mainstream Western society.

That may partially true and certainly what defines the WLHP, although a big part of it it Antinomianism which can be found all over the place throughout history.

There isn't all that much that separates it from the Western "RHP".

You couldn't be any more wrong;
RHP teaches that these two categories are illusion that in reality the two are identical. The solution is to subordinate the "illusion" of self-awareness, of the Psyche, to the "reality" of God, Nature, etc.

WLHP teaches that the two are capable of being perceived as distinct and are in fact distinct as a result of the existence of the Principle of Isolate Consciousness. By cultivating and nurturing this intelligence as a separate and unique quality we develop our own individually determined freedom / liberation.

both are against physical/actual/objective antinomianism (i.e. they would object in totality to things such as bestiality, necrophilia, cannibalism, murder, etc.) and both have some version or degree of dualism.

I don't know where you got that from . . . we most certainly to actively participate in objective antinomianism as well as subjective (as in ritual meditations / visualizations)

Setianism itself, at least the Temple of Set version, is basically the Western LHP equivalent of Islam since it is based on alleged channeled messages from an entity calling itself Set, which bears little appearance to the ancient Egyptian deity (which, by the way, implicitly entails accepting such false Biblical details such as the Exodus and the Jew's sojourn in Egypt). I don't see much questioning of Aquino's alleged channeled messages. Why is that?

Are you or have you ever been a member of ToS? I have . . . and you are incorrect.

 

[Kapalika]

This will be my last post to sum up what I have to say... really this should go in the hands of the staff as I've already said. I am simply responding this one last time to drive home why this is becoming an issue. Also I hope to soon address the lack of real and accurate representation of the original/Hindu/Buddhist Left Hand Path in this DIR.

I said "basically" . . . look this is not that difficult, Eastern LHP is not the same as Western LHP, if you are not seeking to consciously preserve and strengthen one’s isolate consciousness against the objective universe then you are not on the Western LHP. There is no 'proximity' to any external deity or merging with one.

Your conceptualization of the so called "eastern" left hand path isn't what I, or any other so called "eastern" left hand pather posting here believes. There is not an external deity in our beliefs, as we have expressed multiple times.

So called "eastern" left hand path DOES seek to consciously preserve one's consciousness. It's our position that there is no "against" as the Universe is literally described as everything to exist. Go look at any online dictionary entry for "Universe" or "Cosmos" and it will agree. If you mean to segregate your consciousness from the material universe that's much more like gnosticism than what I had understood for all my years of reading about the so called "western" Left Hand Path.

Your statement might hold more water if you were speaking to dualists like yourself, as then there would be a distinct divinity, but "deity" as you understand it isn't what we see as a deity. It isn't a God in the western sense, it's more like a personified force, aspect or property of the Universe.

For example in Kashmir Shaivism Sakti is the creative, material aspect of reality. Kali is change and time, and Shiva is the totality and inert infinite possibilities. They are not gods in a polytheistic or monotheistic sense. It's much closer to pantheism. We don't "unite" or "merge" with anything, we simply realize through revelation our true nature, our higher selves as you would call it.

This is a LHP DIR . . . meaning Western Left Hand Path Directory . . . meaning 'other' religions need to accept our beliefs when discussing here
Yeh yeah, we all know there is a plethora of Hindu sects, but they all fall into one of two categories
1) merging with / atoning with the Absolute / Brahman
2) relating to the Absolute / Beloved through proximity

Neither of these are the Western Left Hand Path

Again you insist in what has been said as not a true/total representation of Hinduism. It doesn't fall into just those two categories.

Also this DIR doesn't say "western" in the name, it simply says "Left Hand Path".

Oh look, wikipedia:

"Vāmācāra (Sanskrit: वामाचार, Sanskrit pronunciation: [ʋɑːmɑːcɑːrə]) is a Sanskrit term meaning "left-handed attainment" and is synonymous with "Left-Hand Path" or "Left-path" (Sanskrit: Vāmamārga)."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamachara


Oh, look again:


"In more recent definitions, which base themselves on the terms' origins in Indian Tantra, the Right-Hand Path, or RHP, is seen as a definition for those magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt social convention, while the Left-Hand Path adopts the opposite attitude, espousing the breaking of taboo and the abandoning of set morality. Some contemporary occultists have stressed that both paths can be followed by a magical practitioner, as essentially they have the same goals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path


We are allowed to post here, we are Left Hand Path, and have been for several centuries. This is our DIR too.

 

[EtuMalku]

This will be my last post to sum up what I have to say... really this should go in the hands of the staff as I've already said.



Your conceptualization of the so called "eastern" left hand path isn't what I, or any other so called "eastern" left hand pather posting here believes. There is not an external deity in our beliefs, as we have expressed multiple times.

So called "eastern" left hand path DOES seek to consciously preserve one's consciousness. It's our position that there is no "against" as the Universe is literally described as everything to exist. Go look at any online dictionary entry for "Universe" or "Cosmos" and it will agree. If you mean to segregate your consciousness from the material universe that's much more like gnosticism than what I had understood for all my years of reading about the so called "western" Left Hand Path.

Your statement might hold more water if you were speaking to dualists like yourself, as then there would be a distinct divinity, but "deity" as you understand it isn't what we see as a deity. It isn't a God in the western sense, it's more like a personified force, aspect or property of the Universe.

For example in Kashmir Shaivism Sakti is the creative, material aspect of reality. Kali is change and time, and Shiva is the totality and inert infinite possibilities. They are not gods in a polytheistic or monotheistic sense. It's much closer to pantheism. We don't "unite" or "merge" with anything, we simply realize through revelation our true nature, our higher selves as you would call it.



Again you insist in what has been said as not a true/total representation of Hinduism. It doesn't fall into those two categories.

Also this doesn't say "western" in the name, it simply says "Left Hand Path".

Oh look, wikipedia:

"Vāmācāra (Sanskrit: वामाचार, Sanskrit pronunciation: [ʋɑːmɑːcɑːrə]) is a Sanskrit term meaning "left-handed attainment" and is synonymous with "Left-Hand Path" or "Left-path" (Sanskrit: Vāmamārga)."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamachara


Oh, look again:


"In more recent definitions, which base themselves on the terms' origins in Indian Tantra, the Right-Hand Path, or RHP, is seen as a definition for those magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt social convention, while the Left-Hand Path adopts the opposite attitude, espousing the breaking of taboo and the abandoning of set morality. Some contemporary occultists have stressed that both paths can be followed by a magical practitioner, as essentially they have the same goals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path


We are allowed to post here, we are Left Hand Path, and have been for several centuries. This is our DIR too.

I think the OP sums up this forum perfectly

 

[EtuMalku]

This will be my last post to sum up what I have to say... really this should go in the hands of the staff as I've already said. I am simply responding this one last time to drive home why this is becoming an issue. Also I hope to soon address the lack of real and accurate representation of the original/Hindu/Buddhist Left Hand Path in this DIR.



Your conceptualization of the so called "eastern" left hand path isn't what I, or any other so called "eastern" left hand pather posting here believes. There is not an external deity in our beliefs, as we have expressed multiple times.

So called "eastern" left hand path DOES seek to consciously preserve one's consciousness. It's our position that there is no "against" as the Universe is literally described as everything to exist. Go look at any online dictionary entry for "Universe" or "Cosmos" and it will agree. If you mean to segregate your consciousness from the material universe that's much more like gnosticism than what I had understood for all my years of reading about the so called "western" Left Hand Path.

Your statement might hold more water if you were speaking to dualists like yourself, as then there would be a distinct divinity, but "deity" as you understand it isn't what we see as a deity. It isn't a God in the western sense, it's more like a personified force, aspect or property of the Universe.

For example in Kashmir Shaivism Sakti is the creative, material aspect of reality. Kali is change and time, and Shiva is the totality and inert infinite possibilities. They are not gods in a polytheistic or monotheistic sense. It's much closer to pantheism. We don't "unite" or "merge" with anything, we simply realize through revelation our true nature, our higher selves as you would call it.



Again you insist in what has been said as not a true/total representation of Hinduism. It doesn't fall into just those two categories.

Also this DIR doesn't say "western" in the name, it simply says "Left Hand Path".

Oh look, wikipedia:

"Vāmācāra (Sanskrit: वामाचार, Sanskrit pronunciation: [ʋɑːmɑːcɑːrə]) is a Sanskrit term meaning "left-handed attainment" and is synonymous with "Left-Hand Path" or "Left-path" (Sanskrit: Vāmamārga)."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamachara


Oh, look again:


"In more recent definitions, which base themselves on the terms' origins in Indian Tantra, the Right-Hand Path, or RHP, is seen as a definition for those magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt social convention, while the Left-Hand Path adopts the opposite attitude, espousing the breaking of taboo and the abandoning of set morality. Some contemporary occultists have stressed that both paths can be followed by a magical practitioner, as essentially they have the same goals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path


We are allowed to post here, we are Left Hand Path, and have been for several centuries. This is our DIR too.

I see Satanism, Luciferianism, and Setianism listed in this Directory not Hindu LHP. Why? Because it is no considered LHP in regards to the others.

 

[Kapalika]

I see Satanism, Luciferianism, and Setianism listed in this Directory not Hindu LHP. Why? Because it is no considered LHP in regards to the others.

According to all the stuff you said Theistic Satanism wouldn't be Left Hand Path either, but there it is.

The real answer is simply ignorance and demand at the time of forum creation is why only those are there.

 

[EtuMalku]

According to all the stuff you said Theistic Satanism wouldn't be Left Hand Path either, but there it is.

The real answer is simply ignorance and demand at the time of forum creation is why only those are there.

You honestly don't see any difference between East and West tenets?

 

[Sutekh]

My point is that almost nothing in the Western Left Hand Path is found outside of the mainstream of Western thought and mainstream Western society. There isn't all that much that separates it from the Western "RHP". Both have their dogmas, both view humans as having some special importance (at least with Setianism and some other forms of theistic Satanism and Luciferianism), both are against physical/actual/objective antinomianism (i.e. they would object in totality to things such as bestiality, necrophilia, cannibalism, murder, etc.) and both have some version or degree of dualism. LaVey, Aquino or abstract figures such as Set are treated with pretty much unquestioning reverence, that they have become cult figures. Setianism itself, at least the Temple of Set version, is basically the Western LHP equivalent of Islam since it is based on alleged channeled messages from an entity calling itself Set, which bears little appearance to the ancient Egyptian deity (which, by the way, implicitly entails accepting such false Biblical details such as the Exodus and the Jew's sojourn in Egypt). I don't see much questioning of Aquino's alleged channeled messages. Why is that?

The temple of set in my own opinion is not a version of Islam, Setians also do not intend to proselytize or convert. In the setian viewpoint its up to the individual to find his xeper. The western LHP in my own view can be separate from the western RHP, you may in your own view think that they are not exactly separate but Satanism including other sects are not widely accepted among the U.S and is not considered mainstream.

 

[Sutekh]

This is a LHP DIR . . . meaning Western Left Hand Path Directory . . . meaning 'other' religions need to accept our beliefs when discussing here
Yeh yeah, we all know there is a plethora of Hindu sects, but they all fall into one of two categories
1) merging with / atoning with the Absolute / Brahman
2) relating to the Absolute / Beloved through proximity

Neither of these are the Western Left Hand Path

If they have to accept our beliefs, why not have an Eastern LHP dir instead.[emoji849]

 

[crossfire]

Yesterday I was on the daily mail UK, and I found some horrific and sad news about albinos and their body parts being used by so-called witches in so-called black magic rituals. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...asts-cut-teenage-boy-limbs-hacked-Malawi.html.
For those of you that may not, or may know about magic and the Left hand path. We do not do those kinds of horrific things, as magicians and left hand pathers we have our own moral codes and our own dogma on which we keep in mind. My dad asked me if I approve of those types of horrific sacrifices, I said that I completely do not approve. My dad however said "oh I thought that you approved." My dad is a deist with a christian background and upbringing. My dad tends to put Satanism in the same category with black magic. However their is a huge difference between black magic and satanism however their is another sect known as Setianism where they classify magic as black magic within their viewpoint. The type of stuff that you would normally hear in the media about Satanists and black magicians committing human sacrificing, those are not true satanists or true black magicians they are simply devil worshipers or attention seekers either way. I consider myself a law abiding citizen, in Satanism we do not of course label magic black or white, "magic is magic." What has always made me frustrated about the general public is their ignorance among the left hand path and that of satanism, they believe everything of what the media may tell them and they do not do their research on satanism of what it truly is. I have always distanced myself from the media and those horrific sacrificing's that is going on occasionally.

Luciferians don't advocate nor approve of this sort of stuff either. I think it is quite reasonable for Satanists, Setians, and Luciferians to distance themselves from this sort of stuff, and it is well within their right to condemn such practices and present reasons against them.

If they have to accept our beliefs, why not have an Eastern LHP dir instead.[emoji849]

Indeed.

 

[1137]

My point is that almost nothing in the Western Left Hand Path is found outside of the mainstream of Western thought and mainstream Western society. There isn't all that much that separates it from the Western "RHP". Both have their dogmas, both view humans as having some special importance (at least with Setianism and some other forms of theistic Satanism and Luciferianism), both are against physical/actual/objective antinomianism (i.e. they would object in totality to things such as bestiality, necrophilia, cannibalism, murder, etc.) and both have some version or degree of dualism. LaVey, Aquino or abstract figures such as Set are treated with pretty much unquestioning reverence, that they have become cult figures. Setianism itself, at least the Temple of Set version, is basically the Western LHP equivalent of Islam since it is based on alleged channeled messages from an entity calling itself Set, which bears little appearance to the ancient Egyptian deity (which, by the way, implicitly entails accepting such false Biblical details such as the Exodus and the Jew's sojourn in Egypt). I don't see much questioning of Aquino's alleged channeled messages. Why is that?

Wow...

 

[1137]

It probably would be a good idea for two separate LHP DIRs so we don't have to deal with the rage of those who failed along the path.

 

[1137]

@Mandi , I hardly think the staff is going to just award you your title and ban the rest of us "posers" or whatever it is you want. We walk a different path than you, and even call it something different, so I don't see the confusion. LHP beliefs have evolved, I suggest you try to as well.

 

[1137]

The temple of set in my own opinion is not a version of Islam, Setians also do not intend to proselytize or convert. In the setian viewpoint its up to the individual to find his xeper. The western LHP in my own view can be separate from the western RHP, you may in your own view think that they are not exactly separate but Satanism including other sects are not widely accepted among the U.S and is not considered mainstream.

We've had several members here fail to gain admission and go completely berserk.

 

[Adramelek]

LaVey, Aquino or abstract figures such as Set are treated with pretty much unquestioning reverence, that they have become cult figures. Setianism itself, at least the Temple of Set version, is basically the Western LHP equivalent of Islam since it is based on alleged channeled messages from an entity calling itself Set, which bears little appearance to the ancient Egyptian deity.

These statements are absolutely ridiculous and show a lack of understanding. There is no unquestioning reverence going on with LaVey or Aquino, Setians especially are not blind followers of anything or anyone. The Temple of Set equivalent to Islam? Islam means submission, the Setian submits to no man or deity, and decides for themselves through study, practice, magickal experience, and introspection what their personal belief systems and philosophies are. Set was the god of darkness, the sky by night, storms, winds, disruption of the natural order in ancient Egyptian mythology, and Set's Name ultimately means the "Separator" or "Isolator" to "Set Apart".

Further more I will say, unless you are or have been a Temple of Set Initiate, you may ask questions, but do not attempt to lecture on the abstracts of the ToS's religion or philosophy.