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dawny0826

Mother Heathen
मैत्रावरुणिः;3572646 said:
The best meat I ever had was when I hunted a deer using a Savannah Longbow by Martin using wooden shafts (arrows). I waited all day with a friend for him.

I would have used my hands, but that's illegal, as far as I know.

Me no breaky breaky da law.

You go with your Hercules self, then. I don't think I could hunt. I'd freak out and end up hurting myself.

I don't eat meat that isn't cow, chicken, turkey or seafood. Pork bacon on occasion.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I have a question for you. Do you see harm for hunting for sport, well aware that your kill be used for food?

No harm. My only question is whether it's really sporting. I tend to think we delude ourselves when we consider it sporting to go against an animal with a rifle or shotgun. I mean, what are the odds the animal is going to win? Sure, some will get away. But mostly they won't, once they've been spotted and you've moved into range. But no, I don't see it as harmful to hunt animals that are not endangered for food.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
You go with your Hercules self, then. I don't think I could hunt. I'd freak out and end up hurting myself.

I don't eat meat that isn't cow, chicken, turkey or seafood. Pork bacon on occasion.

It's the only time I ever hunted. After that, I had a change of heart. I would only hunt from now on if a Zombie Apocalypse happened and stuff hit the fan and we went Revolution style.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
No harm. My only question is whether it's really sporting. I tend to think we delude ourselves when we consider it sporting to go against an animal with a rifle or shotgun. I mean, what are the odds the animal is going to win? Sure, some will get away. But mostly they won't, once they've been spotted and you've moved into range. But no, I don't see it as harmful to hunt animals that are not endangered for food.

The mere notion of it being a "sport" is disturbing.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
No harm. My only question is whether it's really sporting. I tend to think we delude ourselves when we consider it sporting to go against an animal with a rifle or shotgun. I mean, what are the odds the animal is going to win? Sure, some will get away. But mostly they won't, once they've been spotted and you've moved into range. But no, I don't see it as harmful to hunt animals that are not endangered for food.

The sporting aspect is about the skill, strategy, and challenge, not the threat the quarry itself poses. It's not like a hunter takes a few blind shots into the woods and then finds himself wading knee-deep through deer carcasses.
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
No harm. My only question is whether it's really sporting. I tend to think we delude ourselves when we consider it sporting to go against an animal with a rifle or shotgun. I mean, what are the odds the animal is going to win? Sure, some will get away. But mostly they won't, once they've been spotted and you've moved into range. But no, I don't see it as harmful to hunt animals that are not endangered for food.

And they are fair questions.

I always thought that a hunter assumed a "win" over the animal. A lot of people approach sport hunting as an opportunity to test skill.

My uncles have been sports fishermen my entire life and it's not about catching a fish. That's part of it, but, the greatest thrill is measuring your fish and attempting to beat personal and established records. The competition is between people.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
No harm. My only question is whether it's really sporting. I tend to think we delude ourselves when we consider it sporting to go against an animal with a rifle or shotgun. I mean, what are the odds the animal is going to win? Sure, some will get away. But mostly they won't....

EDIT: Maybe I should add -- anything I myself point a shotgun at is gonna get away. I've never hit a duck in my life despite all the times I've tried. :D
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
And they are fair questions.

I always thought that a hunter assumed a "win" over the animal. A lot of people approach sport hunting as an opportunity to test skill.

My uncles have been sports fishermen my entire life and it's not about catching a fish. That's part of it, but, the greatest thrill is measuring your fish and attempting to beat personal and established records. The competition is between people.

Yeah, my younger brother is a fly fisherman. Mostly catch and release, except when he goes to Alaska. Then, for some reason, he gets serious about filling the larder. But otherwise, it's all about the thrill of the catch for him.

The cretin made me stand in an snow-fed mountain stream from ten in the morning until after dusk one day. We didn't catch a single thing until five o'clock -- and he was loving every minute of it. I, on the other hand, was quit sensibly dreaming of thawing out my feet.
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
I thought my Grandma was nuts when she referred to "picking mushrooms" as "hunting mushrooms".

Some people view "hunting" as harvesting. Ha! :)
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I thought my Grandma was nuts when she referred to "picking mushrooms" as "hunting mushrooms".

Some people view "hunting" as harvesting. Ha! :)

"Hunting" mushrooms is what many folks used to call it back in Central Illinois.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I don't need to eat meat, but, it's a great source of protein and a lot of it tastes great.

It's not odd to kill and utilize animals for food. You're totally entitled to your opinion and I respect it. But, I find it asinine when those who won't eat meat due to their own moral convictions, try to shove their agenda down the throats of others.

Those of us who partake in meat really don't care if you find it unnecessary.

Those of us with decency do not support unethical treatment of animals, while they are living.

I am not shoving my agenda against anyone's throat anymoe than someone shoves hir agenda against lion hunter there if they tell her is wrong to kill for pleasure.

Almost all food is great source of protein. As you very well say, you eat because you obtain gastronomical pleasure.

Killing an animal for gastronomical pleasure may be morally acceptable to you and if you dont find the hunter to be morally reprehensible, at least you are consistent.

Human meat is also an outstanding source of protein BTW. I am lead to believe we taste like bacon too.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
मैत्रावरुणिः;3572603 said:
Hunting for the "thrill"....I don't agree with. <----my opinion

Sure I dont either.

On the same basis than eating meat for the flavor.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
"The battle where the lion refused to fight got the better of the man"

Agreed.

The fight seemed to be about pride for the man. Silly all around. There was no fight without tools he didnt even stick to the allgeded purpose.

Just silly.

Why keep bothering animals if we dont need to hurt them? Pride and gluttony dont seem like reasonable excuses.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
"The battle where the lion refused to fight got the better of the man"

Agreed.

The fight seemed to be about pride for the man. Silly all around. There was no fight without tools he didnt even stick to the allgeded purpose.

Just silly.

Why keep bothering animals if we dont need to hurt them? Pride and gluttony dont seem like reasonable excuses.

The lion could have easily gone a-wall. The dude is lucky he didn't. Neither the shield nor the spear would have helped him.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
&#2350;&#2376;&#2340;&#2381;&#2352;&#2366;&#2357;&#2352;&#2369;&#2339;&#2367;&#2307;;3572734 said:
The lion could have easily gone a-wall. The dude is lucky he didn't. Neither the shield nor the spear would have helped him.

The lion didnt even looked like he was well taken care of.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
&#2350;&#2376;&#2340;&#2381;&#2352;&#2366;&#2357;&#2352;&#2369;&#2339;&#2367;&#2307;;3572745 said:
That too. I don't like seeing lions or tigers or any other majestic animals, big or small, in cages. :( But, poaching gets on my nerves!

On the non moral side of things, yeah lions and tigers are cooler than deer and cow to me :D at least they look cooler.

Its very uncool and silly what the guy did there. It is also sad.

On the most poetic sense, I do feel the last phrase summed it up pretty well for me.

The lion was the better man of that cage and the one with real pride.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
On the non moral side of things, yeah lions and tigers are cooler than deer and cow to me :D at least they look cooler.

Its very uncool and silly what the guy did there. It is also sad.

On the most poetic sense, I do feel the last phrase summed it up pretty well for me.

The lion was the better man of that cage and the one with real pride.

The animal in my avitar is actually a wild cat. Picture I took.

They are are called "Bob cats" Its illegal to kill them here.She was in our neighbors front yard. With 5 "kittens" .

Only a 35 40lb cat. We just wanted to take pictures of her not kill her.
 
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