I like the cars design. I find the SUVs to be ugly though, and that cyber truck thing is fubar looking
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I'm Developing An Unhealthy Sense That.....
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I like the cars design. I find the SUVs to be ugly though, and that cyber truck thing is fubar looking
I didn't know this, but there were several other pure electric options pre Musk and company. As the market for this vehicle type expands, I would rather go with a more affordable option without all the bells and whistles I don't care about.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
It's not just Tesla drivers. A lot of drivers, particularly younger, are letting the lane departure and auto braking do the driving of their car (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc.) while they do other things... check their phone, nap, watch videos, read blogs, etc.
But you own the stock, not the car I presume.
It's fine with me to profit off idiots such as....
Socialist Ocasio-Cortez's TESLA Parked Illegally Outside WHOLE FOODS...
Tesla made spendy toys so loved by politicians.
So it got the lucre & the publicity.
Also, Musk's being a raving lunatic employee abuser helps with
his market. (Tesla drivers are C Montgomery Burns wannabees.)
Ding dang darn millennials & gen Z whippersnappers!
(Pardon me French.)
You said french is greek to you, now you speak the language fluently.
I don't speak nuthin fluently.
You are to modest
It is alarming, coming from a fan of SpaceX. I kind of lost interest in that hobby after Musk became so... unstable? (I got a bit off-topic, but suffice it to say I am not interested in a Tesla at the moment.)Tesla made spendy toys so loved by politicians.
So it got the lucre & the publicity.
Also, Musk's being a raving lunatic employee abuser helps with
his market. (Tesla drivers are C Montgomery Burns wannabees.)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's part of a much larger trend of things being anti-consumer. Like how many electronic devices contain clauses that specify you do not own the item but are paying for the "privilege of use." Many digital purchases and even some physical purchases are the same. You don't buy a game disc to own the game, but rather to pay for the "privilege" to use the game. Devices, from tractors to cell phones, when you pay for the privilege of usage, you also agree to not modify the device in anyway. You agree they can take legal action against you if you do anything to violate the terms of agreement. And you agree they can change the terms at anytime, for any reason, with or without notification.
And a good many people who have a license should not have them. We think driving is all willy nilly no biggy. We let people with multiple driving offenses keep their license. We barely slap DUI offenders on the wrist. America is crap when it comes to issuing driver's licenses.
Driving any vehicle--be it a car, big rig, airplane, tank, ship, lawn mower or space craft--requires responsibility. Even if it's automated. Because automated things can and do occasionally fail. The driver must be ready for this.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is sad. SpaceX is doing interesting and amazing things, but Musk himself represents most of everything that's wrong with our system. It rewards people who can make money, damn everything else. (sort of like how Amazon is amazing but Bezos is also an image of everything that's wrong with the system and Amazon employees are abused).
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I was going to say...that ain't French...... but according to Google translate....it is French
Why do you think John Deere is so successful then?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Partly because they've been around way before modern technology and have that name, history, and families who use Deere just like there are families who use Ford, but also lots and lots and lots of people blow that stuff off. They never read what they agree to. They don't know what they are signing over. They don't know the terms, they don't know the conditions, they don't know how heavily stacked against them it is.
And the lack of awareness gives birth to many threads here where people think this is an issue of rights, when in reality is an issue of what they agreed to.
I don't think farmers buy John Deere so much out of tradition.
They have to make money with their equipment.
And if things were so bad, there are New Holland, Mahindra,
Case, International, Massey Ferguson, Kubota, & prolly some
I can't think of.
I've searched, & can't find Deere's side of this dispute.
As for licensing software, that goes way back. My management
software (PMS) from 1986 is licensed. I effectively own it though.
(My supplier is long out of business. There's no support.)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Would you happen to have any of their terms agreements available?
(or are they still too young?
)These companies I don't know as much about. My knowledge is more focused around electronics with this issue, and how it's often an issue for doing your own maintenance and modifications (and how I've gotten these stories with Deere frequently popping up in my phone's news ticker thingy).
But, considering even Rolls Royce was able to pull some crap on someone who bought a second hand Rolls Royce, I wouldn't be surprised if those other companies have some shady legal abilities tucked away in the fine print.
I don't trust these cars, not yet anyway. I don't even like being a passenger in a car when someone else is driving. I'd prefer to be in the driver's seat and constantly aware of what's around me and the overall traffic conditions.
I welcome the technology and hope that it can improve traffic safety, but I'm not convinced that we're entirely there yet.
I'm reminded of the Jonny Cab scene in Total Recall.
I assume that Deere wants happy customers.Would you happen to have any of their terms agreements available?
(or are they still too young?
These companies I don't know as much about. My knowledge is more focused around electronics with this issue, and how it's often an issue for doing your own maintenance and modifications (and how I've gotten these stories with Deere frequently popping up in my phone's news ticker thingy).
But, considering even Rolls Royce was able to pull some crap on someone who bought a second hand Rolls Royce, I wouldn't be surprised if those other companies have some shady legal abilities tucked away in the fine print.
So the situation doesn't make sense to me.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Nor to me either. It's actually happening and I've citied it numerous times in RF (here as well).
The "best" story was when Amazon pulled a certain copy of a Kindle print that had Animal Farm and 1984. This was perfectly legal for them to do, even though users paid for this content. It's all in the TOS (and copyright laws entirely outside of consumer hands).
And, really, I don't think Deere gives a **** about having happy customers or they wouldn't be suing them, enforcing bs agreements, and making repairs more of a hassle than they already are.