I'm Leaving

[Sumadji]

But I wish I could disagree without being considered a bigot.

Bingo. You have always been one of my favourite people here, from years of lurking. If you say these things, they are not trivial. Of course I do wonder about the Donald Trump identification, lol

 

[1137]

Funny, I barely post here anymore for many of these reasons. Stopped by for the first time in a while and this was the first post I saw. Guess there's no need to come back, I just wish I could remove my content from the site

 

[Revoltingest]

and this is the sort of crap I think the OP was talking about.

You just broke another irony meter.

 

[stvdv]

as i recall you made this claim several times and each time you were asked to link the slur. You never did.

And @Rival was right to not link the slur

Someone belittled me, and when I exposed him, he wanted me to give the links. Expecting me to be that crazy

That's narcissistic Supremacy manipulation

Those who can't control their disrespect and have the audacity to make demands afterwards are worst of the worst

 

[Argentbear]

And @Rival was right to not link the slur

Someone belittled me, and when I exposed him, he wanted me to give the links. Expecting me to be that crazy

That's narcissistic Supremacy manipulation

Those who can't control their disrespect and have the audacity to make demands afterwards are worst of the worst

If you are going to accuse someone here of calling you a racist then you should be able to point to the post where you were called a racist

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Stop dredging this thread up just to fight with each other. What is wrong with you guys. This is from a few months ago.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you are going to accuse someone here of calling you a racist then you should be able to point to the post where you were called a racist

Such posts are often poofed (deleted) by moderators.

 

[stvdv]

Has it taken you 11,000 posts to conclude that?

My guess: No. It took him 11,000 post to express his feelings ... good for him

 

[Argentbear]

Such posts are often poofed (deleted) by moderators.

and the person making that post would face the consequences of that post

 

[Revoltingest]

and the person making that post would face the consequences of that post

Typically.
I can't say more because of rules.

 

[stvdv]

If you are going to accuse someone here of calling you a racist then you should be able to point to the post where you were called a racist

Of course I should be able to pinpoint it down
Otherwise it would mean I was wrong

BUT
IF I have pinpointed it down
THEN it means I am right the other is wrong

So, if I am right
I just need to tell the Truth
"You are wrong"

I do NOT need to defend myself
I do not need to tell him where
I do not need to give a link
Why make it easy on the perpetrator?

That's all on him, it's his duty
AND
The other SHOULD apologize

 

[stvdv]

Stop dredging this thread up just to fight with each other. What is wrong with you guys. This is from a few months ago.

I didn't see fights, yet.

Dismiss this thread as "being old", doesn't feel like honoring @Rival

The thread is not even 2 month out. And I just returned to RF after ca. 1 year gone, so I missed @Rival, and then found her thread, hence I replied a bit delayed.

Don't tell me that there is something wrong with me. I am perfectly fine

And if @Rival left RF, for so many good reasons, we should work very hard, as to improve ourselves, get rid of all the faults she taught us, so that she will be happy to return

Seeing the Democrats and Republicans fighting each other here, playing the man and not the ball, exactly doing what made @Rival run away, proves that this thread is still frontpage news

 

[stvdv]

I agree that the debate culture has suffered in the past month, even so I am on the opposite side of you on most issues.
You are one of the few faithful debaters on the right as well as on the religious side. And even though we usually disagree, I respect your views and the way you defend them. I hope you'll return after the climate here has cooled down.
(RF is only mirroring RL, I see increasing conflict outside also.)

Since Corona this pitting 1 group against the other started, before corona RF felt different

Did you know that our (Dutch) Prime Minister (Mark Rutte) had his wingman Hugo de Jong declare "we are going to make you (Dutch people) very angry".

Soon after that, the polarizing culture started (not just in Holland, only here the P.M declared it openly for all to hear and read)

For me 1+1=2

Question:
Why they wanted to make us angry?

I don't write it here to debate on it, just showing that this polarizing is no coincidence. But we are given the opportunity to take it as a challenge ... go along pitting 1 group against the other, or we can decide to follow the path of respect and compassion, like you described your interactions with Rival

Personally what I am learning from it, is to not let the P.M determine my emotions. So, I decided to not go along with all the hate stuff flying around. I do keep myself informed about the what and why, but not being manipulated

 

[stvdv]

Sorry man, I've had enough. I support the socially unacceptable political candidate so now I'm scum.

Hope you're well.

I was gone for ca. 1 year to, because of that reason. I just try again now

I remember you started ca. 1 year ago with your studies. Wish you all the best with that

Love, Peace and Blessings

 

[stvdv]

But I wish I could disagree without being considered a bigot. I wish people would be happy to accept that I disagree with say ssm without telling me that is homophobic. I have been here over a decade and generally revel in debate, but I dislike the idea that now there's a socially accepted and unaccepted viewpoint

Amen to that

 

[Argentbear]

Of course I should be able to pinpoint it down
Otherwise it would mean I was wrong

BUT
IF I have pinpointed it down
THEN it means I am right the other is wrong

So, if I am right
I just need to tell the Truth
"You are wrong"

I do NOT need to defend myself
I do not need to tell him where
I do not need to give a link
Why make it easy on the perpetrator?

That's all on him, it's his duty
AND
The other SHOULD apologize

so the person falsely accused of calling another a racists should apologize?

 

[stvdv]

so the person falsely accused of calling another a racists should apologize?

Okay, the last (below) line can be confusing

That's all on him, it's his duty
AND
The other SHOULD apologize

Better would be

That's all on the other, it's his duty
AND
The other SHOULD apologize

So, said differently:

A)
IF I accuse you falsely of being a racist
THEN you just say (no links/explaining needed):
"You are wrong calling me a racist"
I should apologize

B)
IF you accuse me falsely of being a racist
THEN I just say (no links/explaining needed):
"You are wrong calling me a racist"
You should apologize

 

[Quagmire]

If you are going to accuse someone here of calling you a racist then you should be able to point to the post where you were called a racist

Grabbing someone's post from a different thread and quoting it here without their permission would actually be a rule violation.

Since, as I would assume, @Rival is merely attempting to explain rather than prove anything, going to the trouble of finding those posts, sending DMs to their authors, and then waiting for permission to post them would be overkill.

It would also be unnecessary unless she has any interest in proving something to someone whose opinion, I'm guessing, doesn't mean anything to her.

 

[Argentbear]

Grabbing someone's post from a different thread and quoting it here without their permission would actually be a rule violation.

Since, as I would assume, @Rival is merely attempting to explain rather than prove anything, going to the trouble of finding those posts, sending DMs to their authors, and then waiting for permission to post them would be overkill.

It would also be unnecessary unless she has any interest in proving something to someone whose opinion, I'm guessing, doesn't mean anything to her.

so anyone can make an accusation and there is no expectation of backing that accusation up?

 

[Quagmire]

so anyone can make an accusation and there is no expectation of backing that accusation up?

Is that what I said?