leov
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USA created problem. Yes, Biden helped. Without USA there would be normal peaceful relations.
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Impeachment hearings: Was it worth it?
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
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The wonder and awe of "all things".
Yeah. To me it is a definitely impeach and remove for having obstructed the Constitutional authority of Congress to do oversight, by blocking (and trying to block, both) administration cabinet members and such from testifying.
That's directly against the Constitution.
That should lead to removal. By itself.
If it does not, then that would be because (in that situation) that too many Republicans in Congress would be breaking their oath to uphold the Constitution.
Oath of Office. Upon taking office, senators-elect must swear or affirm that they will "support and defend the Constitution." The president of the Senate or a surrogate administers the oath to newly elected or re-elected senators. The oath is required by the Constitution; the wording is prescribed by law.
U.S. Senate: Oath of Office
I think the impeachment process has squeezed and caused the flaws to be more visible. I think it has changed some minds. At the same time I think that most of the hoopla in the media that has gone on continually since election day, all of that has been too much and has given people excuses to ignore information. It is quite annoying for every word and barb to be discussed, every day, several times per day. I avoid news when its just negative continually. You have to take a bath, and then after you feel clean you don't want to get dirty, again.
Spirit of Light
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I have to disagree with you on this. If it had not been for the time of Sovjetunion and the cold war with America, the two countries would probably be friends now. But when you have America on one side saying negative about Russia, and Russia on the other side answering back with the negativity of America, then there can not be peace.
A political case have never only one side, there must always be two to make friends or foe.
leov
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I would hardly consider either a petrodollar issue. Actually the 911 is more a long term religious issue involving Israel, Christian and Hebrew Zionist nationalism and Western desire to control the Middle East. Oil complicated the issue and inspired further Western desire for colonial control of the Middle East, but these other factors have haunted the Middle East for hundreds of years.
leov
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Iraq, Lybia, Egypt, Ukraine ...Ukraine. Neocon job.
At that time the USA did not exist either. Does that mean that it is fine if Russia invades the USA now?
leov
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It is much complex than just petrodollar. But petrodollar is a big part of it , just like trade war with China. Hugely negative trade balance, mountains of petrodollars abroad to protect value of. Nothing to sell except weapons, oil and gas, $20+ Trillion national debt?
Spirit of Light
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The Budapest Memorandum, signed by Russia, Ukraine, the United States, and the United Kingdom in December 1994, committed the signatories to respect Ukraine’s post-Soviet borders, while Ukraine pledged to transfer its massive stockpile of Soviet-era nuclear weapons to Russia for decommissioning. The question of the Black Sea Fleet was resolved by dividing it proportionally between the two parties; Russia was granted an extended lease on the port facilities at Sevastopol, and, with the signing of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership (1997), Crimea was once again affirmed as Ukrainian territory. Its border questions seemingly settled, independent Ukraine delicately balanced its European aspirations with its lingering ties to Russia. The attempt by Russia to construct a dam in the Kerch Strait sparked a major diplomatic incident in 2003, and Ukrainian legislators characterized the move as an infringement on Ukrainian territorial integrity.
Crimea - History
The national interests in Crimea has long been a disputed territory, but the invasion of Russia into Eastern Ukraine is indeed an invasion of a sovereign nation, Ukraine.
leov
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Russian Navy helped Union military in US Civil war. Russians, even Soviets, were allies against Germany.
Since we are pointing fingers, I blame the baby boomers and the USSR. The boomers were all messed up by world war II. They believed that they had been God's champions to defeat Satan's army. Naturally afterwards it was easy for ministry to make them feel like they were God's chosen. This caused all sorts of problems. They ignored politics unless ministry got them involved in something. They just let politics run itself. This was America, so everything would be fine! They didn't go beyond voting. They didn't get involved. The CIA went off doing whatever, running about doing things in secret. Hoover (founder of the FBI) stopped the communists from taking over, not the boomers. The senators gave themselves raises. The corporations were once again allowed to have huge trusts (although the word trust was not used since it was still illegal). Our military was used to protect our corporate interests. In the 1980's the boomers let the companies out of their responsibilities towards retirees. Greed came to be praised as a virtue. The 80's were the shame of America while at the same time a decade of great artistic creativity and goodwill. Irony sat enthroned.
Also the USSR kept threating us. Kruschev for example threatened publicly to hang the USA. This was a distraction, because he was the leader of a nuclear nation. The USSR also banned the printing of Bibles. What?! Yes it actually banned Bibles. You can't imagine how much this alarmed the boomers. As a child I never heard the end of this. The 'Russians' wanted to destroy religion. They had become the allies of Satan. Would they nuke us? Would they invade to take away our Bibles? Sounds silly to you, but the Nazis had recently tried to do the same. All around communist revolutions were taking place, taking away religion. All sorts of nonsense prophecy books got printed about how Russia appeared in prophecy, and there were ministers offering to sell conspiracy theories with bad arguments for how everything was predicted in the Bible. The boomers took these things very seriously. You cannot imagine how much of my time was wasted on this as a child or how many times I heard about this. This is because USSR was playing upon the fears and the immaturity of the baby boomers, a generation ruined by war. The USSR also fomented revolutions all over the world attempting to prop up communism. This did not help matters and gave the boomers excuses to let the CIA run wild.
That's only one of my fingers, and I have nine others I can point plus ten toes. No, things would not be fine if not for America. They'd still be hosed and possibly worse.
I acknowledge the influence of Oil, but the tribal battle lines were drawn long ago between Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Only for selfish national interests.
leov
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People of Crimea voted to join Russian Federation. Back In 1775 US declared similar step ...
Worth it?
Not worth it?
Wrong questions.
How could they not happen.
That is the (rhetorical) question.
Not worth it?
Wrong questions.
How could they not happen.
That is the (rhetorical) question.
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leov
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Partially, just like in 1775 Russia refused to sell 20000 soldiers King George asked for to send them into the fight with George Washington.
Spirit of Light
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We do not live in 1775 anymore. The new agreement from 1994 is what count now
leov
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Did you see any people's resistance of that invasion? New Ukrainian government was Cannibalic, and people did not want any part of it. Maidan brought a lot of misery and death to Ukraine, this is historic fact.