"In God We Trust" should be removed from US money.

[Charity]

The money issue shouldn't really be a problem for the present day in which we live....As high as gas prices are and as much as everything has had such a price increase we can't keep the money long enough to look at it anyway......

Besides when all the money was first minted the religious people were not' such a deciding factor, and like some one noted some of the symbols aren't of Christian origin.

My advice is to just quit nit picking and just be glad you got the money.

Can't we compromise here, You don't believe in God anyway, you say He doesn't exist so just pretend the money doesn't have his name on it, that should be easy for you.

My Gosh, whine, whine, gripe, , I CAN'T STAND IT, I'm going nuts

:slap: :banghead3:woohoo::bonk: I think I've been pushed to the brink of INSANITY

 

[Charity]

:shout HEAR YE HEAR YE

I want to bring something to your attention:

Money is the root of all evil (This is incorrect) :sorry1:
The Bible says

The LOVE of money is the root of all evil

Sorry, I don't mean to be a no it all but this does make a slight difference in the scripture.

Thank you, Thank you very much

 

[McBell]

Money is the root of all evil (This is incorrect) :sorry1:
The Bible says

The LOVE of money is the root of all evil

I agree that that is what the Bible Bible says.

Though I can show that it is not true.

 

[Troublemane]

I dont believe that love for money is the root of all evil, nor the root of just some evil. Perhaps simple greed, and lusting for things can do that, but people have generally been jealous of others' possessions since the beginning of time. Long before there was money.

As to the OP, I dont understand why atheists, who make up a small minority of the populace, think the majority should cater to them by removing "In God We Trust" from the currency? Dont you know anything about a democracy? The minority should be heard, but the majority shall prevail.

 

[McBell]

As to the OP, I dont understand why atheists, who make up a small minority of the populace, think the majority should cater to them by removing "In God We Trust" from the currency? Dont you know anything about a democracy? The minority should be heard, but the majority shall prevail.

The USA is not a true Democracy.
It is a Democratic Republic.


What you say here is really no different that ten wolves and five sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
Is this what you meant?

 

[Magic Man]

As to the OP, I dont understand why atheists, who make up a small minority of the populace, think the majority should cater to them by removing "In God We Trust" from the currency? Dont you know anything about a democracy? The minority should be heard, but the majority shall prevail.

Then why isn't English the official language here? It seems that the founding fathers wanted this to be a very open country, not promoting one culture or religion over another. So, English is not the official language, and there is no official religion. There is also supposed to be a separation of Church and State. It's a matter of promoting one religion over all others, and promoting religion in State affairs. Neither thing should happen.

 

[The Seeker]

As to the OP, I dont understand why atheists, who make up a small minority of the populace, think the majority should cater to them by removing "In God We Trust" from the currency? Dont you know anything about a democracy? The minority should be heard, but the majority shall prevail.

For most of this country's history, a majority of people thought that women and blacks shouldn't have the same rights as white men. Just because the majority agree with something doesn't make it right.

I believe in a separation of church and state, but the words "In God We Trust" on money doesn't really bother me. The government should, however, stop any future attempts of promoting religion. For example, Florida is attempting to allow the production of license plates that bears a Christian symbol.

 

[Magic Man]

For most of this country's history, a majority of people thought that women and blacks shouldn't have the same rights as white men. Just because the majority agree with something doesn't make it right.

I believe in a separation of church and state, but the words "In God We Trust" on money doesn't really bother me. The government should, however, stop any future attempts of promoting religion. For example, Florida is attempting to allow the production of license plates that bears a Christian symbol.

Are they a type of vanity plate? Or are they just regular license plates? I could understand a vanity plate, as that's just freedom of expression, if that was the case.

 

[The Seeker]

Are they a type of vanity plate? Or are they just regular license plates? I could understand a vanity plate, as that's just freedom of expression, if that was the case.

It is a vanity plate that one would pay extra for. I don't consider it freedom of expression because license plates are made by the government. It's ok to put a bumper sticker on your car that says "I love Jesus", but license plates should be a no no.

 

[Magic Man]

It is a vanity plate that one would pay extra for. I don't consider it freedom of expression because license plates are made by the government. It's ok to put a bumper sticker on your car that says "I love Jesus", but license plates should be a no no.

It's just that they make license plates with plenty of other interests. That's something I see as more business. If a large majority of your clientele is Christian, they might want to by this Christian thing, so it's just good business in that case. I know it's still the government, but I don't see that as so much promoting it, as giving a lot of people something they might like. The difference for me with money is that that's mandatory. Everyone has to use the same money. It also says "In God we trust". I don't trust in God.

 

[texan1]

In seems strange to invoke God on our money, but the "In God We Trust" thing doesn't really bother me that much. But maybe considering current events, threats of terrorism, and the declining reputation of the USA throughout the world, maybe we should change it to something like: "USA. We Don't Trust Anyone."

 

[The Seeker]

It's just that they make license plates with plenty of other interests. That's something I see as more business. If a large majority of your clientele is Christian, they might want to by this Christian thing, so it's just good business in that case. I know it's still the government, but I don't see that as so much promoting it, as giving a lot of people something they might like. The difference for me with money is that that's mandatory. Everyone has to use the same money. It also says "In God we trust". I don't trust in God.

If that's the case, would you be ok with the government selling Bibles in courthouses or other government buildings? If you allow religious license plates, it opens the door for other religious items to be sold by the government.

 

[blackout]

Considering the eye in the pyramid,
and all the other egyptian mystery religion symbolism
(on the printed seal there)
I rather think "God" on the money
is FAR MORE LIKELY a reference to Horous
or some other "occult"="hidden" god symbology.

The elite banking families
(in consort with the world's politicians & leaders)
certainly
act as the worlds gods themselves....
Another "insiders" joke no doubt.

And look at us argue.
The Abramic God. LOL!
They put clues everywhere.
We are their free entertainment for sure.

 

[blackout]

It's just that they make license plates with plenty of other interests. That's something I see as more business. If a large majority of your clientele is Christian, they might want to by this Christian thing, so it's just good business in that case. I know it's still the government, but I don't see that as so much promoting it, as giving a lot of people something they might like. The difference for me with money is that that's mandatory. Everyone has to use the same money. It also says "In God we trust". I don't trust in God.

EVERYBODY trusts in their own god.
everyone.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Abrhamic god.
(unless of course that happens to be your god.
then that of course would be the god you happen to trust in.)

 

[Charity]

I dont believe that love for money is the root of all evil, nor the root of just some evil. Perhaps simple greed, and lusting for things can do that, but people have generally been jealous of others' possessions since the beginning of time. Long before there was money.

As to the OP, I dont understand why atheists, who make up a small minority of the populace, think the majority should cater to them by removing "In God We Trust" from the currency? Dont you know anything about a democracy? The minority should be heard, but the majority shall prevail.

The fact that the love of money which would cause people to do some things that they wouldn't ordinarily do in order to stuff their pockets is what the scripture is referring to....If for example you didn't have a lot of money but desired wealth, and etc that were far beyond your means, and you started doing some unlawful or illegitimate deeds in order to obtain it, that is why the bible says that is when it becomes the root of evil, not the money itself, but the love of it pushes you beyond normal desires.

I think this could happen to a religious person as well as an atheist. Look at the case of Jim Bakker, the evangelist who started out doing what he thought was right. Then when he started growing financially things got out of control and he wanted more and more, until it left his life in a disaster....He started cheating, lying, deceiving, that is why the love of money can sometimes ruin your life and people around you....I'm not saying not to have nice things, or not to obtain tangible things that make you happy, but don't let it comsume you................There are some people that would maybe like to gamble and have stolen and cheated on their job just to obtain the finances to support their addiction, some people who are on drugs may resort to the same thing. The need for the money is what is driving them. The love and lust for the money is the evil not the money itself.

 

[blackout]

I disagree.

The money ITSELF is the problem.
(note however that I didn't say "evil")

 

[Random]

This is an excellent thread. Cardero and Ultra-Violet make some very great and insightful points. The pyramid and All-Seeing Eye on the dollar bill is one of the most obvious, outward signs of our mental, physical and emotional bondage to unseen masters. But if the signs of the times are anything to go by, I believe we are in for major changes in the next few years.

 

[Magic Man]

EVERYBODY trusts in their own god.
everyone.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Abrhamic god.
(unless of course that happens to be your god.
then that of course would be the god you happen to trust in.)

If you believe in a "god", yes. I don't believe in a "god", therefore I don't trust in a "god". I trust in humanity and reason.

It sure seems to have something to do with the Abrahamic God to me. It's possible that they could have meant something else by "God", but it's unlikely considering the founding fathers were all Christians of some sort.

 

[Random]

It sure seems to have something to do with the Abrahamic God to me. It's possible that they could have meant something else by "God", but it's unlikely considering the founding fathers were all Christians of some sort.

There are varying views, but some believe they (the Founding Fathers of America) were Freemasonic deists, others Luciferians of a sort (that is, Lucifer as saviour, or Christ-Lucifer).

 

[blackout]

If you believe in a "god", yes. I don't believe in a "god", therefore I don't trust in a "god". I trust in humanity and reason.

It sure seems to have something to do with the Abrahamic God to me. It's possible that they could have meant something else by "God", but it's unlikely considering the founding fathers were all Christians of some sort.

In the land of the blind,
the one eyed god is king.

Then humanity and reason are your gods... your muses...

I find it rather amusing that as most people
TRUST IN THEIR PAYCHECK the way they do...
the money actually becomes their god.

The symbol becomes the symbolized.