Income Inequality.

[Mark Charles Compton]

... by the capitalists in the party he was running for. According to polls he had a good chance to beat Trump in 2016.

I won't lie. I'm a registered Republican, and I voted for Bernie in the primary and had the DNC not pushed him out of the way for their basement dweller, I would have voted for him on Nov. 2nd... Oh well.

 

[Heyo]

I won't lie. I'm a registered Republican, and I voted for Bernie in the primary and had the DNC not pushed him out of the way for their basement dweller, I would have voted for him on Nov. 2nd... Oh well.

Wait - well, there are a very few states where you can vote in the primaries without being a party member, where are you from?
I find that concept strange. A primary should be the members of party deciding who'd be the best candidate to run for the party. Having the opposition have a word in choosing who'd they like to run against defeats the purpose.

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Wait - well, there are a very few states where you can vote in the primaries without being a party member, where are you from?
I find that concept strange. A primary should be the members of party deciding who'd be the best candidate to run for the party. Having the opposition have a word in choosing who'd they like to run against defeats the purpose.

Michigan.

I actually found it peculiar too and had my registration card out waiting for them to collect it and say, "Oh, you're not supposed to be here." They never took or looked at it.

In my circumstance, I was voting for the candidate I preferred above any other. I was unwilling to vote against anyone, I will throw my vote to a third-party candidate that I can respect before I vote against the subjectively 'greater' of two evils.

However, should anyone be able to vote within the primaries of the opposing party? Probably not. It seems too easy to organize and sabotage the strongest opposition to their own candidate.

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Are you kidding me? Where were you living that you never heard of

Why do you just assume black people can’t get a raise? Where are you getting this stuff?

Home. The streets. We The People.

Here's the situation down here:

How segregation and neglect left Benton Harbor, Michigan with toxic water

Nestled against the shore of Lake Michigan on the southwestern side of the state, Benton Harbor is a small town with a population of just under 10,000. According to the U.S. Census Bureau figures for 2019, 84.7 percent of people in Benton Harbor are Black, and 12.2 percent are white.

www.pbs.org

 

[Kfox]

Don't presume that ¹because you're absorbed by media influence, that everyone else is.

¹edit

Trayvon Martin, (2013) Michael Brown, Tamier Rice (2014) Freddy Gray (2015) these resulted in major protests all over the country, and Black Lives Matter was at the forefront of all of these protests and more. This idea that BLM was unheard of until Floyd was killed, is wrong; it was a major force long before the Floyd incident.

 

[Kfox]

BLM changed the way police is doing business in some selected communities. Most departments haven't changed a thing. Don't you read @Revoltingest's threads?

Like I said, they did have the power, but they squandered it in a foolish way. But even if most departments did not change, the fact that some did indicates they did have a major influence. Like I said, I doubt there is a single police department in the country that allows officers to use the knee on chest or back of the neck to restrain someone.

 

[Kfox]

There are people who love it - those who have it. The Nordic countries constantly rank top tear in happiness.

My dog lives a happier life than most people I know; but those people would never trade places with my dog. There is much more to life than happiness.

We haven't yet established why it wouldn't work in the US.

I listed several reasons I feel it wouldn’t work; our illegal immigrant problem, our distrust and unwillingness to be taken care of by the Government, with 50% of our population paying no taxes at all, to make them pay 50% of their income in taxes will be a HECK NO!!!

But you are right that it wouldn't work if the US changed to the Nordic Model tomorrow. What would work is if the US tried to be be a bit more like the Nordic countries - because it was that way before. Before the 80s,

No it was not! The problems I listed above were problems even back then.

productivity, wealth and income increased more or less at the same percentage over all income groups. Then Reaganomics happened, the rich stopped paying their fair share of taxes and that caused the rising wealth and income differences.

I disagree! If you look at the percentage of Americans who were rich in the 80’s and compare that number to the percentage who was rich 50 years prior…… there was a huge difference. The term YUPPIE became popular during that time due to the influx of young rich people. How many young rich kids do you think existed in the 1930’s?

 

[Kfox]

Well, it could work in the USA, but it is complex and a lot of factors. All of them are in effect no objective as it is all social in the end.
So if you want we can go through how it even could work in the USA.

I think we would have to have a complete culture change in order for it to work. What say you?

 

[Kfox]

Home. The streets. We The People.

Here's the situation down here:

How segregation and neglect left Benton Harbor, Michigan with toxic water

Nestled against the shore of Lake Michigan on the southwestern side of the state, Benton Harbor is a small town with a population of just under 10,000. According to the U.S. Census Bureau figures for 2019, 84.7 percent of people in Benton Harbor are Black, and 12.2 percent are white.

www.pbs.org

How did this prevent you from hearing about Black Lives Matter prior to 2020?

 

[sayak83]

Changing the way cops do business does not mean shootings will decrease. Do you think a cop will put his knee on the chest or back of the neck to restrain a suspect anymore?

You should start giving data to backup your claims that influence of grassroot movements on society and policy is as much as that of the wealthy.

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Trayvon Martin, (2013) Michael Brown, Tamier Rice (2014) Freddy Gray (2015) these resulted in major protests all over the country, and Black Lives Matter was at the forefront of all of these protests and more. This idea that BLM was unheard of until Floyd was killed, is wrong; it was a major force long before the Floyd incident.

"The popularity of Black Lives Matter has shifted over time. Whereas public opinion was net negative in 2018, it grew increasingly positive through 2019 and 2020.[18] A June 2020 Pew Research Center poll found that 67% of adult Americans expressed some support for the Black Lives Matter movement.[19] A later poll conducted in September 2020 showed that support among American adults had dropped to 55%, with notable declines among whites and Hispanics, while support remained widespread among black adults.[20] By May 2022, a poll suggested that support for Black Lives Matter had decreased significantly among all racial demographics, including among African-Americans."

Black Lives Matter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm just a part of the majority. They had a spike in 2016 due to involvement in the election, but by and large they were invisible until 2020.

Once no one had anything to do except sit on their arse, watch the Tiger King and focus on other peoples' problems, THEN everyone started to pay attention to the discrimination that they had been acclimated to ignoring.

Apologies that most of us have to work a job and didn't notice the movement. I haven't noticed them since 2020 either, so... 15min. of fame. The problem never went away, if anything it's gotten worse.

 

[Revoltingest]

BLM changed the way police is doing business in some selected communities. Most departments haven't changed a thing. Don't you read @Revoltingest's threads?

At first I thought "Bureau of Land Management".
Gawd, I'm dumb.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I think we would have to have a complete culture change in order for it to work. What say you?

No, you already have a part of your culture as a sub-culture, who understand it. But yes, in a sense a core part of your narative about what makes a good society and life have to change.
But you are already having that debate.

 

[Heyo]

My dog lives a happier life than most people I know; but those people would never trade places with my dog. There is much more to life than happiness.

I listed several reasons I feel it wouldn’t work; our illegal immigrant problem, our distrust and unwillingness to be taken care of by the Government, with 50% of our population paying no taxes at all, to make them pay 50% of their income in taxes will be a HECK NO!!!

No it was not! The problems I listed above were problems even back then.

I disagree! If you look at the percentage of Americans who were rich in the 80’s and compare that number to the percentage who was rich 50 years prior…… there was a huge difference. The term YUPPIE became popular during that time due to the influx of young rich people. How many young rich kids do you think existed in the 1930’s?

I don't know about the '30s but this graph shows the problem I'm talking about. Can you accept this as real or do you have contradictory data?

 

[Audie]

Home. The streets. We The People.

Here's the situation down here:

How segregation and neglect left Benton Harbor, Michigan with toxic water

Nestled against the shore of Lake Michigan on the southwestern side of the state, Benton Harbor is a small town with a population of just under 10,000. According to the U.S. Census Bureau figures for 2019, 84.7 percent of people in Benton Harbor are Black, and 12.2 percent are white.

www.pbs.org

Why do you suppose immigrant blacks
do so much better in the USA than the local ones do?

 

[Audie]

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I don't know about the '30s but this graph shows the problem I'm talking about. Can you accept this as real or do you have contradictory data?

So...you should be paid twice as much if the farmer
supplies you with a tractor ( enclosed cab, air conditionrd, and a stereo) that has twice the speed
and power of the one he had last year?

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

At first I thought "Bureau of Land Management".
Gawd, I'm dumb.

That was me 4 years ago... When the Black Lives Matter movement started using that acronym.

 

[Heyo]

No it was not! The problems I listed above were problems even back then.

1. It weren't so big problems that the US couldn't have a somewhat fair workers compensation. 2. Your problems are self made. You didn't listen to Eisenhower, so you got your bloated military-industrial complex. Your politicians refuse unanimously to fix your immigration policies as they both benefit from the status quo. Your government isn't trustworthy because you don't vote for trustworthy politicians. (Well, that last one is only an argument if I'm wrong that the US is a country of thugs and thieves. If it is a land of thugs and thieves it would be natural that they would end up in government.)

 

[Heyo]

So...you should be paid twice as much if the farmer
supplies you with a tractor ( enclosed cab, air conditionrd, and a stereo) that has twice the speed
and power of the one he had last year?

Does the farmer make twice as much money as he did last year? Did he buy that tractor from the surplus he made last year that I have worked for? What does the farmer do that justifies that he keeps all the surplus without working more?

 

[Kfox]

You should start giving data to backup your claims that influence of grassroot movements on society and policy is as much as that of the wealthy.

I think it would be more like comparing apples to oranges.