Income Inequality.

[Kenny]

You’re giving examples of children being done right. The reply I made was in the context of single parenthood and poverty, and that is a very real thing. I was just pointing out how all too often, people have children they had no intention of having, having children when they are not prepared mentally or financially, and the results often leads to poverty

Thanks for the clarification. Way before, I did mention that single parenting makes upward mobility more difficult and keeps many single mothers (or fathers) in poverty

 

[Kenny]

Yeah, of course, poor people are just poor because they can't manage money.
No, that's just a myth people have to say and believe to keep a crap systemthat only benefits a few alive and flourishing.

No... that is statistical.

Except disabilities doesn't pay the bills and overall, like most people, I'd rather not just sit on my *** amd collect a check.

I hope that God opens a door of opportunity for you.

Did you see the numbers I posted for those with autism? For very, very many of us that something better never happens.

I think if we look for "something better" -- it may be closer than one thinks. I remember a quote that said, "If you think you can or can't, you are right". Certainly let's help one another especially those that cannot help themselves.

But I think we still have to take certain responsibilities in life management

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No... that is statistical.

Then prove it.

I think if we look for "something better" -- it may be closer than one thinks. I remember a quote that said, "If you think you can or can't, you are right". Certainly let's help one another especially those that cannot help themselves.

But I think we still have to take certain responsibilities in life management

That's not true either. That's not how life works. There are no heroes, no saviors, no fairness, some of us are just dealt a **** hand. And rather than acknowledge how
harsh life really is and how this system leaves many behind our society has had to create many myths and all manmer of bs like poor people just being lazy and irresponsible so people can sleep comfortably believing it's all their own effort for being financially well off qnd those who aren't have only themselves to blame.
It's no different than how disease, illness and death scare people so we tell ourselves all sorts bull**** so we can ignore the fact that yes, it can happen to us and we are just one accident or malfunctioned DNA reproduction away from losing it all.

 

[Kenny]

Then prove it.

That's not true either. That's not how life works. There are no heroes, no saviors, no fairness, some of us are just dealt a **** hand. And rather than acknowledge how
harsh life really is and how this system leaves many behind our society has had to create many myths and all manmer of bs like poor people just being lazy and irresponsible so people can sleep comfortably believing it's all their own effort for being financially well off qnd those who aren't have only themselves to blame.
It's no different than how disease, illness and death scare people so we tell ourselves all sorts bull**** so we can ignore the fact that yes, it can happen to us and we are just one accident or malfunctioned DNA reproduction away from losing it all.

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There is a different approach. Poor mindset are usually angry about their situation and blame others. People with a rich mindset can be angry about their situation but do something about their situations.

 

[Audie]

Then prove it.

That's not true either. That's not how life works. There are no heroes, no saviors, no fairness, some of us are just dealt a **** hand. And rather than acknowledge how
harsh life really is and how this system leaves many behind our society has had to create many myths and all manmer of bs like poor people just being lazy and irresponsible so people can sleep comfortably believing it's all their own effort for being financially well off qnd those who aren't have only themselves to blame.
It's no different than how disease, illness and death scare people so we tell ourselves all sorts bull**** so we can ignore the fact that yes, it can happen to us and we are just one accident or malfunctioned DNA reproduction away from losing it all.

I dont think refusing to acknowledge
is entirely accurate. Nor that nothing but
" myth" making has even tried.

" war on poverty" and all that rot.

Efficacy is another matter.

Nor accurate that any other than some few
stupid people think poverty is " just" moral
failure that causes poverty.

It's a mix, and such as laziness and
irresponsibility are definitely a part of
the mix of causes for divers people.

Withal, in your posts we see a lot
of finger pointing and gross overgeneralizing.
Which is much akin to the behaviour you decry.

 

[Audie]

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Thee is a different approach. Poor mindset are usually angry about their situation and blame others. People with a rich mindset can be angry about their situation but do something about their situations.

Succes or failure has a lot to do with
the story people tell themselves

An anthro professor mentioned talking to an American
Indigenous boy who said "Chinese like to build things.
We are hunters. I want to be a hunter and a basketball
player *.

Absolute guarantee of a life of poverty.


* meaning in the village, not on an actual team

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Succes or failure has a lot to do with
the story people tell themselves

An anthro professor mentioned talking to an American
Indigenous boy who said "Chinese like to build things.
We are hunters. I want to be a hunter and a basketball
player *.

Absolute guarantee of a life of poverty.


* meaning in the village, not on an actual team

Yeah, but there are rich people, who have in fact a worse life than some people with less income/wealth.

There are more factors than just one.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

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There is a different approach. Poor mindset are usually angry about their situation and blame others. People with a rich mindset can be angry about their situation but do something about their situations.

Your link is self help garbage that makes claims but doesn't back them up. Like it's claim that most people who struggle finamcially live beyond theirmeans. First that doesn't necessarily mean people who are poor and in fact that does include even some rich people (heard of MC Hammer amd the storyof many lotter winners?), amd second it is entirely unsourced.
And patronizing attitudes aren't appreciated. If things worked like they do in all these fantasies people keep believing I would have been employed full time several months ago doing something I found I actually like doing (and I'm even totally ok and used to keeping weird hours). But as people who don't hold those illusions about life say, wish in on hand, **** in the other and see which ones fills up first. Even being top of the class and being ahead of yhe pack in the actual skills doesn't really help that much or I'd be super employable having graduated with honors.
In the real world things don't always work out for people as they planned.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Succes or failure has a lot to do with
the story people tell themselves

If that was true I wouldn't have had to apply to some of the same compankes a half dozen times. I'd be getting interviewed. I'd be getting hired. But because stories are just stories amd real life is real life.
Best way I've heard it expressed; Life's no ***** because she's a ****ing ****. (Scum). Oddly enough, while mainstream society believes stuff as you and Kenny, this Russian rapper noticed the fans of his music, horrorcore rap, a genres who's fans are usually poor, he noticed fans of his music aren't attractive or good looking. Which is congruent with studies that show attractiveness plays a factor in many things one's life.

Attractiveness is associated with the belief that economic success is dependent on individual effort, rather than external circumstances

According to a recent study published in Economics and Human Biology, beauty is associated with lower support for redistribution. Attractive individuals are more likely to attribute economic success to individual effort, as opposed to external circumstances.

www.psypost.org

Physical attractiveness is associated with many positive outcomes – greater happiness, higher wages, better jobs, and even higher cognitive outcomes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's a mix, and such as laziness and
irresponsibility are definitely a part of
the mix of causes for divers people.

It is neither in my case.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

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There is a different approach. Poor mindset are usually angry about their situation and blame others. People with a rich mindset can be angry about their situation but do something about their situations.

And ti highlight "something I actually like doing," stabbing people and making them bleed is something I'm not only good at, I actually like doing it. That's not something I've had. I've been good at previous things I've done, but it's been things I haven'tliked doing or have even hated doing (like programming or repairing electronics). This I actually like doing. And while phlebotomy isn't exactly getting to go Michael Myers on people, it's still fun because I've fantasized about stabbing people (and worse) a lot, especially in high school. And based on what people I have drawn from have told me, I get a twisted pleasure from being able to say there's little to no pain when I stab someone.
So, you can see why being denied a job doing this endlessly frustrates me.

 

[Audie]

If that was true I wouldn't have had to apply to some of the same compankes a half dozen times. I'd be getting interviewed. I'd be getting hired. But because stories are just stories amd real life is real life.
Best way I've heard it expressed; Life's no ***** because she's a ****ing ****. (Scum). Oddly enough, while mainstream society believes stuff as you and Kenny, this Russian rapper noticed the fans of his music, horrorcore rap, a genres who's fans are usually poor, he noticed fans of his music aren't attractive or good looking. Which is congruent with studies that show attractiveness plays a factor in many things one's life.

Attractiveness is associated with the belief that economic success is dependent on individual effort, rather than external circumstances

According to a recent study published in Economics and Human Biology, beauty is associated with lower support for redistribution. Attractive individuals are more likely to attribute economic success to individual effort, as opposed to external circumstances.

www.psypost.org

Come now. I said " a lot do with".
And it does not always turn out for everyone.

But what I said is so.

 

[Audie]

It is neither in my case.

Good. But for many it is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But what I said is so.

In Imaginationland, perhaps.

 

[Audie]

In Imaginationland, perhaps.

Suit yourself.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Suit yourself.

I wonder, how many poor people have you known, worked with, and been friends with? And from things you've said I assume you yourself have never been poor. Is this correct?

 

[Audie]

I wonder, how many poor people have you known, worked with, and been friends with? And from things you've said I assume you yourself have never been poor. Is this correct?

None of that is relevant to the entirely valid observation that a persons beliefs and attitudes have a najor impact on where their life goes.

If you dont know that, or don't want to know it, you can learn it but you cannot
argue it. Not with me, anyway. I won't engage.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

None of that is relevant to the entirely valid observation that a persons beliefs and attitudes have a najor impact on where their life goes.

If you dont know that, or don't want to know it, you can learn it but you cannot
argue it. Not with me, anyway. I won't engage.

That only works in nonsense like the Secret. Yes, if you think something can't be done you probably won't do it. But just because you think you can do something amd will be able to doesn't mean you'll be able to. That's how the real world works, a real world where lots of people are never given a chance (my best friend would be working on cars professionally, but she's a girl and people rarely ask her for advice, let alone work on them).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

None of that is relevant to the entirely valid observation that a persons beliefs and attitudes have a najor impact on where their life goes.

If you dont know that, or don't want to know it, you can learn it but you cannot
argue it. Not with me, anyway. I won't engage.

And it is vert relevant because it means you knkw what poor people are like. And you have not been describing them.

 

[Audie]

And it is vert relevant because it means you knkw what poor people are like. And you have not been describing them.

Poor Asians may be quite different from poor Americans.

My Indonesian maid thought $5 USD
was good pay back home. Shre sends, actually I do it for her, 90 percent of her salary home to her family..

But never mind that. It's a nice monday morning in SGP, not raining, and I'm heading,out. Hope you can find a RFer to argue with, I'm not in the mood