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Infinite time and space.

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
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Premium Member
the eividence has been given to you over and over

you dont have the education to understand it is all.

Really? If it has I have been questioning it, so that's gotta be hard evidence :sarcastic

Listen here, just saying that the evidence has been given when I've seen none isn't going to convince me.
 

shawn001

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No, I don't, I just see the universe as nothing but rocks spreading apart in empty space.



"Empty space" is empty otherwise you are misunderstanding the word 'empty'




Cool, wikipedia says it. But I'm wondering why you even think there isn't a where outside of the universe?



"Empty space" is empty otherwise you are misunderstanding the word 'empty'



You don't get it, what are virtual particles?

Empty space is NOT empty and this is very important in cosmology and specifcally in QM.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
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Premium Member
"Empty space" is empty otherwise you are misunderstanding the word 'empty'



You don't get it, what are virtual particles?

Empty space is NOT empty and this is very important in cosmology and specifcally in QM.

Who cares that there are things in empty space, it isn't a essential part of it.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
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Premium Member
It is, actually. The vacuum actually has energy content.

Alright, so why is it called empty space.

I can agree that time is a measurement of movement, but without time it's just... nonexistent, it ended at the same time it started, etc. It's blank existence, like before we are born.

Why would there be that with somehow there is time in our universe?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
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Premium Member
theres no use arguing with him

its all a game he is playing

As I said before, if you want to make claims and not provide evidence for your side of the argument as you kept repeating "ITZ THEER" then leave. I, unlike you, debate to learn or teach, and here I'm trying to learn, but with you generating posts like this repeatedly, irrational as it is, it's hard to be optimistic that someone will present evidence.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
and here I'm trying to learn,

your here trying to learn a proccess that takes years and some people still dont get it.


your asking for one liners and the answers are pages long




I already told you google is your friend, dont hate' em


you refuse that and the knowledge we have shared
 
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The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
your here trying to learn a proccess that takes years and some people still dont get it.


your asking for one liners and the answers are pages long




I already told you google is your friend, dont hate' em


you refuse that and the knowledge we have shared

I'm debating the knowledge you have shared.

I have googled, I have looked at the sites people have linked.

It's fine if you refuse to give them to me, just making claims that I am poeing or trolling when I'm not is ridiculous. Just know that until I read evidence that I cannot debate I'll accept.

I'm willing to accept
 

outhouse

Atheistically
we have already told you the answer.

You keep refusing it due to ignorance on the subject, what else do you want.


we have stated spacetime was created within our universe.

we do not know what is on the outside of our universe but its not our spacetime that only exist here.

if you cannot phathom that there are dimensions mathmatically that are not apparant to our senses, its not my fault even though we know they exist.


Its not our fault you cannot grasp the material at hand. Its OK it is advanced learning and takes time.

You need to take classes if you want to get the information you seek this isnt the place despite the knowledge here.

we have tried end of story
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
we have stated spacetime was created within our universe.

we do not know what is on the outside of our universe but its not our spacetime that only exist here.

Again, what evidence do you have for that?

if you cannot phathom that there are dimensions mathmatically that are not apparant to our senses, its not my fault even though we know they exist.

Just because there is, even if there is, and I don't pick a side on this one, personally or for the debate, why does that mean the spacetime is only within our universe?
 
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Tiberius

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Sum of Awe, I just have to ask...

Have you tried to learn about this stuff from a source that isn't this thread?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Sum of Awe, I just have to ask...

Have you tried to learn about this stuff from a source that isn't this thread?

I have asked different people before, yes, in other threads, in other forums.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Just as bad.

Look, if you actually wanted to know about this stuff, you;d go and do your own research, wouldn't you? You've got the entire internet at your finger tips, and yet you have done nothing but ask people (who probably aren't qualified in this field) and then complained when they don't have the knowledge about this to explain it to you.

The simple fact is that we are for the most part repeating the words and information that we have gained from our own study of this. We aren't experts, so you don't really accomplish anything when you ask us questions that an expert is needed to answer and we can't explain it.

Go do your own research. Go and listen to them and read them for yourself.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Just as bad.

Look, if you actually wanted to know about this stuff, you;d go and do your own research, wouldn't you? You've got the entire internet at your finger tips, and yet you have done nothing but ask people (who probably aren't qualified in this field) and then complained when they don't have the knowledge about this to explain it to you.

The simple fact is that we are for the most part repeating the words and information that we have gained from our own study of this. We aren't experts, so you don't really accomplish anything when you ask us questions that an expert is needed to answer and we can't explain it.

Go do your own research. Go and listen to them and read them for yourself.

I've googled a ton for this in my lifetime and found nothing reliable. I even read people who agree that time exists infinitely
 
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