I didn´t have to watch it, I know what those things are. They are really not as incompetent as you make then out to be, they just observe and draw conclusions from that. It is close to impossible to make better conclusions based on the observations made here on Earth. Fact is they are doing a much better job at it then any of us, especially considering the fact that it adds up and seem to work scientifically.Did you watch the entire vid? See what they say at the end
LOL - scientists believing in dark, invisible, undetectable, hypothetical substance to try and explain why theories don’t match what they see
That's OK - I have no problems dealing with the seemingly invisible
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Infinite universe = everything exists.
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Infinity + infinity = Infinity ...... Not 2x infinity.
skydivephil
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Did you watch the entire vid? See what they say at the end
LOL - scientists believing in dark, invisible, undetectable, hypothetical substance to try and explain why theories dont match what they see
That's OK - I have no problems dealing with the seemingly invisible
Not true at all, there are 4 main observational pieces f evidence to suggets dark matter exists. Is it too hard to have a look at wikipedia before making a straw man argument up?
Dark matter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Furthermore, sceintist have cosnidered re wrtining one of their most cherished equations:
f=ma
to try and account for these observations with envokig the existence of dark matter, These attempts are known as MOND:
Modified Newtonian dynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
However no one come up with a MOND that can be shown to work.
Can you imagine religious people throwing out key doctrines if they dont match observations?
ragordon168
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why rewrite it as it works for all non relativistic motion? (to my knowledge anyway)
imaginaryme
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An infinite universe provides us with infinite possibilities. It does not make us pointless, just very small
It really doesn't. Infinite possibility renders this probability pointless. And if you're speaking of levels of infinity, these are purely mathematical concerns. The difference between countable and uncountable infinities. It is my personal belief that the problems encountered by Cantor and his continuum hypothesis arise from conceptual complexity rather than just Godel's incompleteness. By using a hypothetical construct I call the "stupid number set," I was able to imagine a sort of "two dimensional infinity;" but I seem to prefer running my neck to doing the math.
Herr Heinrich
Student of Mythology
I am content with just telling myself that the Universe works on some very confusing principles that we generally do not experience here on Earth. I am also content with knowing that is impossible for my human mind to understand some of these principles fully.(it is still fun and painful to try though) Our minds have their limits that's why science is "categorizing our perception of reality" not "explaining reality". Ask any quantum physicist, odds are they would agree on that definition.
) Our minds have their limits that's why science is "categorizing our perception of reality" not "explaining reality". Ask any quantum physicist, odds are they would agree on that definition.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I must be infinite - give me any number, and I can tell you what the next number will be - I know all numbers.
imaginaryme
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God in the numbers is called Absolute Infinity and is given by the omega sign. I'd explain further but I'm not sure I understand it me own self.
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The power of 10 vid (I think this is the right one) zooms in powers of ten from quarks/strings up to Gallaxies etc. etc. Just a fun vid to watch if you have never seen it.
they used to say that atoms were the smallest thing, that you could not divide them. Now we can split an atom, and then some. I don't think there is any "smallest" entity which can no longer be split - hense, infinity in the very small as you look to what is smaller, and smaller, and smaller yet... and infinity in the big - as you try to capture a bigger, and bigger, and bigger yet piece of the "big" picture.
Infinity lies in either direction - getting bigger and bigger, or smaller and smaller.
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What comes after the square root of negative one? (see link)
I will be very impressed if you know the answer
(PS - the answer is not the square root of negative 2
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Oh, watch it, it is fun.
YouTube - Dark Matter Dark Energy & the Unknown Universe
Enter into the "unknown" universe!
I know there is an illusionary security to be found in thinking we know everything.
But there is something better than a feeling of security.
The feeling of Awe.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
What comes after the square root of negative one? (see link)
I will be very impressed if you know the answer
(PS - the answer is not the square root of negative 2
The square root of negative one plus one.
Next.
imaginaryme
Active Member
What comes after the square root of negative one? (see link)
I will be very impressed if you know the answer
(PS - the answer is not the square root of negative 2
Isn't it said, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing? "What comes after" is the assumption of countable infinity. Numbers that are strictly countable are called the set of natural numbers, and are useful in number theory. If you're implying that the tessarine j comes after i... you're just a troublemaker.
Cool link though.
So what is your point? That dark matter does not exist or that science if faith based? Because the existence of it is not any more controversial then the existence of black holes, neutron stars or even planets around other solar systems.
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I think we know more about what black holes are than we know about what Dark Matter/Energy is. The point is, we cannot see the entire "big" picture of this universe.
Let alone all of the other parallel universes
YouTube - Who lives in the eleventh dimension? - Parallel Universes - BBC science
imaginaryme
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I think we know more about what black holes are than we know about what Dark Matter/Energy is. The point is, we cannot see the entire "big" picture of this universe.
Let alone all of the other parallel universes
YouTube - Who lives in the eleventh dimension? - Parallel Universes - BBC science
BBC kicks ***. If I lived over there, I'd actually own a TV. The differences between black holes and dark matter are twofold. For one, the mathematics and science behind singularities is twice as old, and two; black holes are to some extent "observable" in that streams of matter are energized in their rush towards destruction, and this visible energy is added to the empirical evidence for such to exist. Dark matter is by definition dark, and is theorized to account for discrepancies between theorized gravitation and observed gravitational effects. New detectors now being manufactured may finally validate the existence of dark matter.
Personally, I like the conclusion from my latest investigations - we really do not know what gravity is.
We never have, we never will, all we can do is look at what we know and draw conclusions from that. Science never states otherwise. That does not prove or disprove anything about the existence of God... yet.I think we know more about what black holes are than we know about what Dark Matter/Energy is. The point is, we cannot see the entire "big" picture of this universe.
Let alone all of the other parallel universes
YouTube - Who lives in the eleventh dimension? - Parallel Universes - BBC science
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Mr Cheese
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No boundaries = infinite universe = everything exists.
There, I just proved God exists
You have failed to define God
Thus you have proven nothing