Or you could say the French winning the war for us.
I mean one of the plots to kill Hitler was a French one, while the other was a Joint one using a British double agent and American and German troops
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Inglourious Basterds
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Or you could say the French winning the war for us.
richardlowellt
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Yeah, we should have just sat back and watch the Nazi's goose step through the streets of London, sure would have saved us a lot of trouble.
Not that it's a big deal, and while I understand where you're coming from, I think the cynicism is misplaced.
Inglourious Basterds was never intended to be a historical film, much less a historically accurate, film at all. Its intent is to celebrate spaghetti westerns and the macaroni combat films of the 70s. Tarantino even uses Morricone's music, specifically samples from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, in the soundtrack. The intent is not to recreate a time, but to use film to celebrate other films.
Even the French-Jewish character Shoshanna calls herself Emanuelle Mimieux at one point, a nod to Yvette Mimieux who starred in the 1960 version of The Time Machine. Tarantino is playing around with concepts of time and history in film, all with a black tongue in cheek sense of humor. Not a big deal of course, but I never understood why people complain about incorrect accents in films or historical anachronisms when the intent to accurately portray such was beside the point.
I like how in this they speak in their actually language not in English with accents. I'll also add Mel Gibson's Scottish accent to one of the worst ever.
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Tom Cruise would do a lousy job playing Tom Cruise.
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angellous_evangellous
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Gibson is a good example of a filmmaker who claims he's trying for historical accuracy but tends to stumble on the accent and the setting's details. Apocalypto comes to mind as one of his more historically dubious films. And I've been told the Aramaic in The Passion of the Christ is abyssmal.
Catherine Zeta-Jones and Sean Connery do the worst American accents. I know I'm in a minority of one when I say Hugh Laurie's American accent sounds awful. I love the guy, but he just sounds silly on House. But Keanu Reeves in Coppola's Dracula is the worst attempt at an accent or acting of any sort I've ever seen onscreen.
No fair using Cruise as an example for anything... other than how ludicrous the cult of Xenu is.
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Agreed and agreed! Give me subtitles to bad accents ANY DAY.
Bad southern US accents are absolutely the worst, the worst, the worst...
Probably because it is always easier to spot a bad attempt at your own accent than any other type of accent?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK - just saw the movie and here are some adjectives I shall use to describe it:
STUPID
Artistic
Gratuitously violent (no surprise there)
Graphic
Unbelievable (in the most negative sense of the word)
Spoof
Belabored
Tedious
Over-produced
Excessive
Ridiculous
Over-the-top (once again, no surprise)
Waste of tax payer dollars
There were a few laughs, the film quality was excellent, costumes were quite nice, and Brad Pitt was loveable even as he was cutting swastikas into people's foreheads.
And there was a good scene - actually an excellent scene, and I wonder if (and believe that) Tarantino was making fun of us, his audience in this scene: The scene was when the Nazis were watching the gratuitously violent film, "National Pride" and they were all nodding their heads everytime someone was killed in this substandard film, and talking about what a great film it was. Honestly, did the audience (the real audience) not see the beautiful IRONY in that?
But of course it just ****** me off at Tarantino even more, because I believe he put that in there as a diss to the very audience who was paying to watch his movie.
Come to think of it, I'm only mad at myself. Tarantino is nothing but predictable, and I got precisely what I expected.
Too bad - I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
STUPID
Artistic
Gratuitously violent (no surprise there)
Graphic
Unbelievable (in the most negative sense of the word)
Spoof
Belabored
Tedious
Over-produced
Excessive
Ridiculous
Over-the-top (once again, no surprise)
Waste of tax payer dollars
There were a few laughs, the film quality was excellent, costumes were quite nice, and Brad Pitt was loveable even as he was cutting swastikas into people's foreheads.
And there was a good scene - actually an excellent scene, and I wonder if (and believe that) Tarantino was making fun of us, his audience in this scene: The scene was when the Nazis were watching the gratuitously violent film, "National Pride" and they were all nodding their heads everytime someone was killed in this substandard film, and talking about what a great film it was. Honestly, did the audience (the real audience) not see the beautiful IRONY in that?
But of course it just ****** me off at Tarantino even more, because I believe he put that in there as a diss to the very audience who was paying to watch his movie.
Come to think of it, I'm only mad at myself. Tarantino is nothing but predictable, and I got precisely what I expected.
Too bad - I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
Vasilisa Jade
Formerly Saint Tigeress
Well I LOVED the movie. I thought it was wildly creative, and that the story line was great, and all the actors did an amazing job.
I can't believe that someone would think that crazy captian nazi guy was one dimensional. That was an excellent portrayal of how a psycho's mind works.
It was twisted, bizarre, creative, raw, and just plain F'd up. I like a movie that leaves you thinking about all it's emotional elements. The sadness, humor, wit, and horror. It's an unusual emotional combination to have so explosively bundled into one movie.
It's funny too that when I think of the person who wrote that, I see a bored angry comic writer sitting down and taking some purple pills and thinking... what if this happened to Hitler??? And then he just wrote a bunch of nonsense down and made sense of it when he sobered up.
My boyfriend is Jewish... only ethnically, and he wasn't offended. He appreciates off the wall art and creativity. He said about the same as I did.
Twisted crazy awesome!
I can't believe that someone would think that crazy captian nazi guy was one dimensional. That was an excellent portrayal of how a psycho's mind works.
It was twisted, bizarre, creative, raw, and just plain F'd up. I like a movie that leaves you thinking about all it's emotional elements. The sadness, humor, wit, and horror. It's an unusual emotional combination to have so explosively bundled into one movie.
It's funny too that when I think of the person who wrote that, I see a bored angry comic writer sitting down and taking some purple pills and thinking... what if this happened to Hitler??? And then he just wrote a bunch of nonsense down and made sense of it when he sobered up.
My boyfriend is Jewish... only ethnically, and he wasn't offended. He appreciates off the wall art and creativity. He said about the same as I did.
Twisted crazy awesome!
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Brilliant movie....
"Bonjurno"
"Bonjurno"
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well, I wasn't offended by the movie. After all, one of my favorite movies of all time is "Pulp Fiction."
I thought the acting was well done. In fact, the COMPONENTS of the movie were excellent from an artistic point of view.
I think the plot absolutely sucked. And unfortunately, there weren't many fabulous lines either, which was really dissappointing considering it was a Tarantino film.
I guess in my opinion some topics just don't translate well into a spoof.
I thought the acting was well done. In fact, the COMPONENTS of the movie were excellent from an artistic point of view.
I think the plot absolutely sucked. And unfortunately, there weren't many fabulous lines either, which was really dissappointing considering it was a Tarantino film.
I guess in my opinion some topics just don't translate well into a spoof.
Loved it. I much preferred it to Kill Bill which, although still good, was too action orientated for my tastes. I just love the Tarantino dialogue. I would quite happily watch more scenes like that.
I think I just get so sick of watching a movie that could be good except they failed at the dialogue. Or just didn't care. Look at Terminator 3 for a great example of this.
I don't know how I feel about the level of barbarism in the movie. I don't think the whole "turning Jews into Nazis" was supposed to mean anything at all. However, what I took away from it is how easily we are able to section of unpleasant behaviour into specific "kinds" of people to make us feel better about ourselves. I think the route from peace to barbarism is much shorter than most would like to admit and we make it seem longer still by seeing ourselves as so different from, say, the Nazis. We obviously are different in terms of our actions but perhaps, given a different set of circumstances, we might be not so different?
I think I just get so sick of watching a movie that could be good except they failed at the dialogue. Or just didn't care. Look at Terminator 3 for a great example of this
.I don't know how I feel about the level of barbarism in the movie. I don't think the whole "turning Jews into Nazis" was supposed to mean anything at all. However, what I took away from it is how easily we are able to section of unpleasant behaviour into specific "kinds" of people to make us feel better about ourselves. I think the route from peace to barbarism is much shorter than most would like to admit and we make it seem longer still by seeing ourselves as so different from, say, the Nazis. We obviously are different in terms of our actions but perhaps, given a different set of circumstances, we might be not so different?