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Insulting?

Pudding

Well-Known Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc
Hopefully, not many believers are that simplistic in their views!
 

ether-ore

Active Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc

Really Pudding? Why should you care so much about what people of faith think. This thread is very much like your other one in that sense. If you don't believe what people of faith think or say, then just ignore them and move on. In your last thread along these lines, you indicated an irrational fear of religious influence where such influence is diminished almost to the point of non-existence. You really have a hang-up on this issue. What is it really? Is it just that people with these beliefs exist that you have a problem with? Do you want them to stop existing? What is it that you want?
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc
I really don't hear a lot of people of faith just dismissing people in this manner. In fact, we have teachings against condemning others, which covers all that you listed (they're all condemnations). We know that there are those who do this, but it's against the teachings of the faith.
At this point in my life, I've realized that life is too short to worry about what others think about me. As a Christian, I believe it's important what God thinks of me.
 
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc

I think most of the faithful are of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" mindset. So I don't think they mean insult. As for judging? Let's keep it real, everyone makes judgments about others.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc

Huh? Non-religious people insult people with beliefs all the time.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I really don't hear a lot of people of faith just dismissing people in this manner. In fact, we have teachings against condemning others, which covers all that you listed (they're all condemnations). We know that there are those who do this, but it's against the teachings of the faith.
At this point in my life, I've realized that life is too short to worry about what others think about me. As a Christian, I believe it's important what God thinks of me.

I don't agree that those are necessarily ''condemnations''.
 

jojom

Active Member
The first and most obvious insult is that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient.
I agree it could be an insult if it had any ring of possible truth to it. On the other hand, a person is free to take whatever is said about them, no matter how innocuous or silly, as an insult. So I guess even if there's no possible truth to it, if a person cares enough what someone says about them it can be regarded as an insult. Personally, if I was a theist or deist and someone said that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient, I would find it far more amusing than insulting. But to each his own.


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ether-ore

Active Member
I agree it could be an insult if it had any ring of possible truth to it. On the other hand, a person is free to take whatever is said about them, no matter how innocuous or silly, as an insult. So I guess even if there's no possible truth to it, if a person cares enough what someone says about them it can be regarded as an insult. Personally, if I was a theist or deist and someone said that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient, I would find it far more amusing than insulting. But to each his own.


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Oh, but I do ignore it. The question was: what would and insult be. That you want to say that derogatory remarks like that that I have paraphrased do not have the ring of truth is in itself another insult I'll have to ignore because it suggests that I'm making it up... that I am a liar. Oh well... it matters not. :)
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
The first and most obvious insult is that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient.
Who here do you see doing that? I imagine there might be some strong willed atheists but for the most part, I don;t see a lot of folks being that kind of rude here. I certainly would not be so rude.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Oh, but I do ignore it. The question was: what would and insult be. That you want to say that derogatory remarks like that that I have paraphrased do not have the ring of truth is in itself another insult I'll have to ignore because it suggests that I'm making it up... that I am a liar. Oh well... it matters not. :)
I don't think anyone calls you that and if you thought I did, I most humbly apologize. We can certainly disagree about some Biblical passages but in no way would I ever call ANYONE a liar or say they are making something up. I may say I disagree with how you see something but that doesn't mean I am saying you are making it up. My word. Why would someone do that?
 

ether-ore

Active Member
I don't think anyone calls you that and if you thought I did, I most humbly apologize. We can certainly disagree about some Biblical passages but in no way would I ever call ANYONE a liar or say they are making something up. I may say I disagree with how you see something but that doesn't mean I am saying you are making it up. My word. Why would someone do that?

"Why would someone do that?" I'm not saying that you have; what I am answering to are experiences I've had. The only 'why' I can come up with is the pride of the "intellectual" elitist... the: 'I'm smarter than you' syndrome.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
"Why would someone do that?" I'm not saying that you have; what I am answering to are experiences I've had. The only 'why' I can come up with is the pride of the "intellectual" elitist... the: 'I'm smarter than you' syndrome.
I've found that that kind of person is somewhat rare here. No one is smarter than another.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Is some believer using their religion's moral/law to judge/comdemn/preaching to non-believer itself sometimes filling with insult?

You're evil.
You're sinner.
You're immoral.
You're abomination.
You're blind for not seeing a specific god's existence.
... etc

I actually take those as compliments, especially the last one For some weird reason.

Ciao

- viole
 

jojom

Active Member
Oh, but I do ignore it. The question was: what would and insult be. That you want to say that derogatory remarks like that that I have paraphrased do not have the ring of truth is in itself another insult I'll have to ignore because it suggests that I'm making it up... that I am a liar. Oh well... it matters not. :)
Making it up? Calling you a liar? Not at all. I can certainly see someone making such a remark. My comment was about how one takes it.


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jojom

Active Member
Just out of curiosity, what is the piano solo from? What's the name of the piece?
They're the opening six bars of George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue. A piece I'm attempting to learn, and I emphasize the "attempting."



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