Insurrectionist removed from office under the 14th amendment.

[fantome profane]

the head of the FBI determined that Clinton was just careless not criminal for 30,000 crimes she committed, so you’ll pardon me if I don’t but some 2 bit political hack making up garbage to try to stop trump from running.

You’re very angry aren’t you?

 

[Truth in love]

You’re very angry aren’t you?

angry is not the right words. I don’t find it disturbing that so many people run about tactless spreading a dangerous narrative and have no awareness or care for any sense of fairness’s or law.

the left flipped their lid over Trumps sexual behavior, but Clinton’s rapes, Biden rape and creepy behaviors are all fine. If we are not a nation of laws we will descend into chaos.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Please try to understand. It has been determined by a court of law that it was an insurrection. That makes it a legal fact.

You can certainly have your own opinion, you can believe the court ruled incorrectly. But it is a fact that more than one court now has said it was an insurrection.

Personally, I think it's a good thing that many of the insurrectionists have been arrested, charged, and convicted. I overheard a very interesting conversation not long ago among a group of people who were a mixture of Never Trump Republicans and Democrats. The general consensus of this discussion group was that "the treacherous traitors who participated in the January 6 attack on the Capitol should be stripped of their US citizenship and forced to leave the country and live the rest of their miserable lives in exile." They all agreed with Biden that the MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy. To be honest, I do not know if stripping an American citizen of their citizenship and forcing them to leave the country for participating in the January 6 insurrection is even possible or not.

 

[fantome profane]

Personally, I think it's a good thing that many of the insurrectionists have been arrested, charged, and convicted. I overheard a very interesting conversation not long ago among a group of people who were a mixture of Never Trump Republicans and Democrats. The general consensus of this discussion group was that "the treacherous traitors who participated in the January 6 attack on the Capitol should be stripped of their US citizenship and forced to leave the country and live the rest of their miserable lives in exile." They all agreed with Biden that the MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy. To be honest, I do not know if stripping an American citizen of their citizenship and forcing them to leave the country for participating in the January 6 insurrection is even possible or not.

No, sorry but you can’t just exile people. These idiots are your problem. You have to deal with them.

What makes you think any other country would want to take them?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

No, sorry but you can’t just exile people. These idiots are your problem. You have to deal with them.

What makes you think any other country would want to take them?

To be honest, I thought it was a strange thing to say because I've never heard exiling US citizens like that ever mentioned before.

 

[F1fan]

Mr. Griffin should appeal. A ruling from the Supreme Court that whatever happened on January 6th was not legally an insurrection would be stunning.

That would be stunning, and indicative of a court that is not trustworthy.

These right wing extremists should just value democracy and elections, and be law-abiding citizens. But They follow Trump and end up criminals and in serious legal trouble.

 

[F1fan]

No, sorry but you can’t just exile people. These idiots are your problem. You have to deal with them.

What makes you think any other country would want to take them?

There are so many of these right wing idiots around us. Fortunately the Jan 6 insurrectionists being arrested and getting prison time is a good lesson to these idiots who think Trump won the election. They love their freedom more than Trump, which is a miracle. If they really loved Trump they would go to prison for him.

 

[Shaul]

That would be stunning, and indicative of a court that is not trustworthy.

These right wing extremists should just value democracy and elections, and be law-abiding citizens. But They follow Trump and end up criminals and in serious legal trouble.

Rather it would be indicative of a rational court that rejected the nonsense put forth by leftists trying to demonize its political adversaries and wrongly labeling them criminals. An extremist would be someone who attempts to criminalize law abiding political opponents.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Mr. Griffin should appeal. A ruling from the Supreme Court that whatever happened on January 6th was not legally an insurrection would be stunning.

I'm sure that's what will happen.

You don't just tell an elected official willy nilly he's gone. Thats a clear unconstutional abuse of authority , unless there were proper impeachment hearings first to remove an elected official.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

“Mr. Griffin is constitutionally disqualified from serving,” the judge wrote.


Here is the relevant section.


Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability


Seems clear to me. It shouldn’t matter that this clause has not been used in a while. No one who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States can hold office. That is what happened.

Paywall. *yawn*

 

[Twilight Hue]

Personally, I think it's a good thing that many of the insurrectionists have been arrested, charged, and convicted. I overheard a very interesting conversation not long ago among a group of people who were a mixture of Never Trump Republicans and Democrats. The general consensus of this discussion group was that "the treacherous traitors who participated in the January 6 attack on the Capitol should be stripped of their US citizenship and forced to leave the country and live the rest of their miserable lives in exile." They all agreed with Biden that the MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy. To be honest, I do not know if stripping an American citizen of their citizenship and forcing them to leave the country for participating in the January 6 insurrection is even possible or not.

It's arguable they were trying to protect their freedoms.

Misguided definitely. Traitors? I don't think so.

 

[Heyo]

If we are not a nation of laws we will descend into chaos.

I have my popcorn ready. All the signs are there: people not trusting the voting system, people not trusting the courts which all ruled that the election was not manipulated, people staging an insurrection, people not trusting the courts which said it was an insurrection, some leaders of the insurrection still not in prison.
You can watch "Rise and Decline of the US Empire" on TV.

 

[Ponder This]

Whatever your personal opinion, right now it is a legal fact that it was an insurrection.

There have been other courts that have ruled against the Jan 6 riot being an insurrection. It seems likely that the New Mexico District Court ruling will be appealed. But certainly Judge Francis J. Mathew has called the Jan 6 riot an insurrection despite Griffon not having been charged with insurrection in his Federal conviction. I'm sure the particulars of this case will be closely examined.

 

[Stevicus]

No, sorry but you can’t just exile people. These idiots are your problem. You have to deal with them.

What makes you think any other country would want to take them?

I wonder whatever became of that guy who defected to Belarus. That was a strange story.

We could send the rest of them up to Canada. Wouldn't you just love that?

 

[Truth in love]

I have my popcorn ready. All the signs are there: people not trusting the voting system, people not trusting the courts which all ruled that the election was not manipulated, people staging an insurrection, people not trusting the courts which said it was an insurrection, some leaders of the insurrection still not in prison.
You can watch "Rise and Decline of the US Empire" on TV.

Where in the world do you get your news. The courts consistently refused to see the evidence. That is very different from ruling that there was nothing wrong.

 

[Heyo]

Where in the world do you get your news. The courts consistently refused to see the evidence. That is very different from ruling that there was nothing wrong.

So you don't trust the courts to make fair decisions? Then you are part of the problem.

 

[Ella S.]

Please try to understand. It has been determined by a court of law that it was an insurrection. That makes it a legal fact.

You can certainly have your own opinion, you can believe the court ruled incorrectly. But it is a fact that more than one court now has said it was an insurrection.

When was it ruled in court that it was an insurrection? I can't find any cases of a Jan. 6th rioter being convicted on charges of insurrection, only other related felonies.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It was a riot. It was a problem and those who engaged in violence should be prosecuted.

A violent riot directed against the central seat of the Federal Government, and including forcible entry of the premises, and threatening behaviour towards elected officials seems kinda insurection-ish.

Must be a subtle distinction I'm missing.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

It was a riot. It was a problem and those who engaged in violence should be prosecuted.


Having watched excuses made for a great many violent riots on the left I find it incomprehensible that the same people can claim insurrection when all the facts point to a riot.

The difference is in the intent. What was the intent of the rioting at the Capitol? Why were the rioters there?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Banana republic. Calling Jan 6 an insurrection is disinformation.

Yeah, but "putsch by incompetent fascists" takes so much longer to say.