PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
You are going about it entirely the wrong way. You should not be choosing anything; you should be deducing it.
(which should really be elementary.
)
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Intelligence First
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(which should really be elementary.
)
McBell
Unbound
Not when the deductions would contradict your beliefs.You are going about it entirely the wrong way. You should not be choosing anything; you should be deducing it.
(which should really be elementary.
Why else would faith be leaned upon so heavily?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
You are going about it entirely the wrong way. You should not be choosing anything; you should be deducing it.
(which should really be elementary.
It is elementary....one way or the other.
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Reality is not a choice.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Here at the forum is sure is!
Take a look around.
No two people see anything in the same way.
The people who claim to 'understand'....cannot agree on their science.
And people who rely on scripture...chase back and forth likewise.
Common ground?....around this forum?
What might work is a dropping of dogma....
combined with acknowledgment of a spiritual potential....
THEN we might move toward common ground.
McBell
Unbound
Yes, it would be so much easier for you if everyone merely agreed that you were right.
Especially if said agreement was nothing more than faith.
One wonders why it is you feel everyone should agree with you...
Perhaps an ego has gotten blown out or proportion?
outhouse
Atheistically
primitive man has done this for thousands of years.
do you think we should move past it since nothing ever has been proven except man likes to make his own deitys ??? Thats a solid fact. you cannot refute.
and deitys change only due to the geographic location you were born????
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Now you're really getting shallow!
Thief
Rogue Theologian
At this point you can see you won't change my mind...or any of those thousands of people you just mentioned.
Shouting in the wind?....good for you (somehow).
Thief
Rogue Theologian
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
There isn't a choice to make. You go where the evidence points you, or you will be left behind.
Interestingly, there is a distinct lack of evidence in this thread.
Silver
Just maybe
Intelligence first or chemistry first?
1. Does that intelligence have to be outside the Universe (God)?
Or
2. Can the intelligence be inside the Universe (Humanoid)?
Can not humanoids devise a way of bringing themselves into existence?
Is not what we see/know the way Humanoids have brought themselves into existence?
I know it requires time travel but maybe the Humanoids designed time into the system to be manipulated.
If you say 1. you haven't accounted where God came from.
If you say 2. everything is accounted for.
I'm not saying humanoids devising a way of bringing themselves into existence will definetly work but I think it requires further investigation.......it shouldn't be ruled out just like that.
Silver
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Can you choose what color the sky is?
Can you choose how fast light travels?
Can you choose how tall you are?
Jordan Robert Wilson
Atheist
I think that, in the event that we are speaking of the Abrahamic God, who is omniscient and omnipotent, evolution and creationism can not coexist, as is makes no logical sense. If somebody is all powerful and all knowing, why not simply make what you want your creation to be like immediately, rather than evolution? Evolution and the Abrahamic faiths are incompatible in the sense that God would have no need for evolution, and he did not explain it in scripture. Scripture goes against evolution anyway, by saying that man was created, rather than evolved.
RitalinO.D.
Well-Known Member
This is assuming that one, God exists, and second, he can be proven to be omnipotent and omniscient. Considering neither of these are possible, the point is moot.
The debate will go on and on and on ad nauseum.
McBell
Unbound
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I think you've lost your mind.
Seriously considering you to be the first on my ignore list.
McBell
Unbound
Really?
Cool
Though the only difference will be that you will not be filling up threads with your empty retorts to my posts.
I keep hoping that you will one day actually have a reply that is more than your trying desperately to ignore the points of my quoted post or a blatant attempt at changing the subject.
So much for having faith in you....
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Farewell then.