Iran had to face a US assisted Iraq.
(Note that Iraq failed in its attack.)
Israel has a US assisted advantage rather than disadvantage.
What's it all mean?
War with Iran could be very very messy & unpredictable for all parties.
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Iran Nuclear Agreement
- Thread starter Jake1001
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(Note that Iraq failed in its attack.)
Israel has a US assisted advantage rather than disadvantage.
What's it all mean?
War with Iran could be very very messy & unpredictable for all parties.
Wirey
Fartist
Assistance isn't pulling the trigger. Name every nation who took on Israel and gave them what-for in our lifetimes. Iran can't be stupid enough to honestly believe they'd do any better.
Assistance makes a difference in how fell a country is.
So it must be considered.
I suspect belief in their odds are of nearly no weight there.
All of Israel's enemies are militarily insignificant compared to it.
That is why they resort to terrorism.
Also, while I am no expert in military history, I think it is safe to say that it is full of bloody surprises.
I see Iran as a militarily significant enemy of Israel.
But it just isn't in the interest of the former to attack the latter directly......& vice versa.
Israel would only attack Iran if it were in concert with Americastan.
Fortunately, Obama isn't a willing partner.
Wirey
Fartist
Okay, I get you now. I meant strictly speaking from an Israeli defensive posture.
How then do you explain the outcome of the 2006 Lebanon war, a war which few outside of the Israeli political right paint as an Israeli victory?
War is by nature utterly destructive and that makes it difficult to predict. 2006 Lebanon is hardly the only example.
Got it.
Then should I assume you want to see the likes of Netanyahu out of power sooner rather than later?Got it.
As I have noted more than once in these forums, I am a Meretz, Tag Meir, NIF supporter. I detest Netanyahu.
dust1n
Zindīq
Wasn't an Israeli victory, neither was it a victory for anyone, really.
Just surviving without giving up the captured soldiers made it a victory for Hezbollah. Israel caused a lot of damage to Lebanon but that wasn't their goal.
Tom
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
For Israel, it was a catastrophe, and if this were to happen again, Israel simply could not fight it the same way. They tried to be extremely cautious so as to not kill many civilians, but by doing so Hezbollah had a chance to move and hide their weapons, so the Israelis weren't able to do much with them.
dust1n
Zindīq
High costs for a microwin.
Iran is clearly planning to change that.
Once they get the sanctions lifted they will be much better able. And despite the Obama administrations claims, those sanctions won't "snap back" at the first hint of dissembling on Iran's part. It will take months to even begin trying to reassemble the coalition of sanctioners, especially Russian ones. In case it has gone unnoticed, USA relations with Russia aren't looking too good now or for the foreseeable future. And in a China ascendant future they will have less reason to do what the USA wants as well.
Tom
The lack interest in the USA does not make it a micro win. It was a battle between Iran's proxy army, Hezbollah, and the USA's, IDF.
The goals were clear. IDF was to crush Hezbollah and get two soldiers back, dead or alive. Hezbollah was to stand up to the USA and survive without giving back the soldiers.
Hezbollah won and the IDF lost. For Iran, ten years ago, that was a huge victory. They proved to the rest of the Islamic world that the USA was not unbeatable.
Tom
dust1n
Zindīq
Congratulationa Iran and Hezzbolah. Your geopolitical victory has put you on the ranks of a successful second rate Latin cartel. If only there as victorious at that heroin epidemic.
The President of the world's sole remaining superpower is trying desperately to stop Iran from becoming the middle Easts top regional power. Iran is winning, dude.
Laugh while you can.
Tom