I don't think I have ever met or heard of those people.
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Iran Nuclear Agreement
- Thread starter Jake1001
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I don't think I have ever met or heard of those people.
They sure sound positive about the deal.
Since I'm unfamiliar with the deal itself, this kind of feedback is encouraging.
I agree this is very encouraging. And as I said earlier, I believe it will lead to stronger support of Israel by the US.
esmith
Veteran Member
No, I'm deadly serious. I'm in the "speak softly and carry a damn big stick" camp.
esmith
Veteran Member
How's that working out with North Korea?
That I see, but surely there is such a thing as realizing that there is no chance of attaining one's goals with a certain direction.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
AMIA as in Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina, a Jewish community centre in Buenos Aires that was bombed in 1994. 85 people were murdered and over 300 injured.
Leaked audio: Israeli leaders drew up plans to attack Iranian military
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/middl...b_homepage_deskrecommended_pool&iref=obinsite
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/middl...b_homepage_deskrecommended_pool&iref=obinsite
Of course.
But every ill spoken word from Iran is flaunted as a reason to attack.
Yet US & Israelistan make very real plans to attack Iran.....& they wonder why Iran is so hostile.
They aren't aware of their own hypocrisy & malevolence.
That is one side of the coin.
But I notice that fans of US & Israeli alliance aggression towards Iran don't acknowledge the effects of what they do.
You complain about 85 deaths, yet don't address a million Iranian deaths at the hands of Iraq (supplied with US WMDs, training & economic assistance).
It pays dividends to understand the perspective of one's enemies.
This yields options, including one to ramp the aggression down instead of up.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Well perhaps I simply see the difference between a war of two countries and a bomb attack in Argentina which targeted only civilians of a specific denomination.
The perspective? Well apparently Jews are fair game wherever they live and whatever their political ideas may be.
But I am not expecting you to understand that.
The perspective? Well apparently Jews are fair game wherever they live and whatever their political ideas may be.
But I am not expecting you to understand that.
So you claim superior understanding, eh?
Perhaps instead, your singular victimhood perspective limits yours.
We're all "fair victims" to someone.
But this doesn't justify a preemptive attack upon a country by those who have been more abusive, provocative, deadly & threatening all along.
Israel needs us to back up its belligerence, & I'm pleased as punch that Obama didn't play along.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
If you can't differentiate between state sponsored terror and war between two countries... well.
In case you haven't noticed, no one has attacked Iran yet.
Meanwhile for the last 39 years Iran sponsored and engineered terror against some people throughout the world.
Yeah yeah my victimhood. Thing is I regularly visit a certain place of worship with a Community Centre. If people in Argentina who are 13.776 km away from Teheran can get hit by a terrorist attack in their Community Centre, how can I say "well that was just in Argentina" while I am just 3.898 km away from Teheran?
But I get it, its just my victimhood. Its not like quite recently a Bus loaded with people of a certain denomination "magically" exploded in Burgas. And somehow everything points towards a certain country in the Middle East. I mean its probably just a coincidence. No worries. After all your aren't targeted.
Its just my victimhood. I bet the police armed with their submachine guns in front of our Community Centre are also just there because of our victimhood.
In case you haven't noticed, no one has attacked Iran yet.
Meanwhile for the last 39 years Iran sponsored and engineered terror against some people throughout the world.
Yeah yeah my victimhood. Thing is I regularly visit a certain place of worship with a Community Centre. If people in Argentina who are 13.776 km away from Teheran can get hit by a terrorist attack in their Community Centre, how can I say "well that was just in Argentina" while I am just 3.898 km away from Teheran?
But I get it, its just my victimhood. Its not like quite recently a Bus loaded with people of a certain denomination "magically" exploded in Burgas. And somehow everything points towards a certain country in the Middle East. I mean its probably just a coincidence. No worries. After all your aren't targeted.
Its just my victimhood. I bet the police armed with their submachine guns in front of our Community Centre are also just there because of our victimhood.
You can't be serious.
One of the huge issues is that Iran has been under attack for decades and are not interested in new promises to stop.
Tom
Tis not my ability to differentiate which is the root problem here.
It's more that your paranoia is leading to misguided war lust at the expense
of others, & a complete failure to respect the history & lives of Iranians.
Not recently & overtly.
But Iran has suffered more at the hands of Americastan than Israel has by all of its
enemies combined during the same period. To understand the great loss of life
they've suffered would go a long way to designing a less combative foreign policy
to make them less of a threat.
In case you haven't noticed, so have US & Israel.
(Do you like how I co-opted your modus operandi there?)
And still, you don't acknowledge that a million Iranians died in an unprovoked attack upon them by Iraq, with extensive US support, including WMDs. To understand this is to grok why Iran would pursue nuclear weaponry. The problem is that they need WMDs. Tis this need which should be eliminated, rather than Iran's capability.
So many ferriners & domestic fundies, particularly the paranoid militaristic Zionists, are so cavalier about embroiling us in yet another war with massive loss of life over decades. They eschew peace in favor of crushing enemies. This is neither successful in the short run, nor a sustainable model in the long run.
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