Iran sentences LGBTQ woman to death for spreading corruption on earth.

[stevecanuck]

It happens anywhere that people foolishly attempt to establish theocracies. Sadly Islam doesn't have a monopoly on such bad behavior.

But it has lapped the field several times.

 

[stevecanuck]

In my view that post was not excellent at all (it was on level with the countless hateful threads you making)

Do i say everything is perfect in the Islamic world today, no it is not, if it was perfect we would not see terror from those countries.
But you seems to want to blame ONLY the islamic world and only muslims for how bad our world has become. That is not a correct view.

No. I blame Islam for Islamic terrorism. There are currently dozens of terrorist groups operating, and that by far outpaces any other religion in the world.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No. I blame Islam for Islamic terrorism. There are currently dozens of terrorist groups operating, and that by far outpaces any other religion in the world.

I will be waiting for the day you make a new OP that look at all the positive with islam. But I know you only looking for the negative.

 

[stevecanuck]

I do ceiticize those who kill any other human being, be it Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, from all religions, and if atheists kill.
As you probably know by now, i am against any form of killing.

You see, i do not single out groups,

Why not, Especially when it's a group that identifies itself and clearly states that it's the group's ideology that is being used as justification for the killings? You really don't make a lot of sense most of the time.

 

[stevecanuck]

No you didn't. You completely turned their tongues around. Read the book a little.

Another gratuitous denial minus any detail. What a surprise!

Nope. It's not just untrue, it's mindbogglingly absurd. Could you please coach me how a seen and alif can be read as a sadh and ye? Thanks in advance for your future coaching.

?????????????????? Did you miss the 'د', after the seen-alif, or is your desperation to pretend I'm wrong getting the better of you? Here's the word-for-word link from corpus.quran.com. It's right there in front of you (I'm actually curious as to how you're going to pretend otherwise. I just know that you are). The Quranic Arabic Corpus - Word by Word Grammar, Syntax and Morphology of the Holy Quran

Nah. You don't have a choice but to insult others to distract the fact that your life is fuelled by hatred and you live your life for it.

I'll translate that into firedragonese: "SQUIRREL!!!!!"

To summarize, you're using a pretend argument about the phrase "f'il ardi fasadan" to deflect from the fact that Iran is doing nothing more than following the Qur'an in sentencing those women to death. You're only fooling those who want to be fooled so they won't have to take their heads out of the sand.

You don't know anything about it. Your only petrol for your engine is hatred and lies.

And finish with bluster because it's all you have. You're a joke, but I can only laugh at you so many times before it gets old.

 

[stevecanuck]

I will be waiting for the day you make a new OP that look at all the positive with islam. But I know you only looking for the negative.

I'll be waiting for the day you recognize the 'Islam' in 'Islamic terrorism'.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'll be waiting for the day you recognize the 'Islam' in 'Islamic terrorism'.

Those who do terror in the name of Islam are not muslims in my understanding and view. So you barking up the wrong tree

 

[stevecanuck]

An other way to see it is "Do not use bad language about God",

Ermmm, no. Telling a lie and swearing are two completely different things.

if one do not know or understand God, it is better to be silent when asked about God.

Oops, you got the wrong door. Preaching is down the hall and to your left.

You are not a follower of any God nor a believer in Gods existence, yet you critique both God and his followers.

I critique them when they kill in the name of their beliefs. Have you actually condemned Iran for this yet? I honestly don't remember.

 

[stevecanuck]

Those who do terror in the name of Islam are not muslims in my understanding and view. So you barking up the wrong tree

Then you desperately need to educate yourself.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Ermmm, no. Telling a lie and swearing are two completely different things.

Oops, you got the wrong door. Preaching is down the hall and to your left.



I critique them when they kill in the name of their beliefs. Have you actually condemned Iran for this yet? I honestly don't remember.

I have not made an OP about it no, Just because I don't say anything does not mean i don't have a view of what happens in the Muslim world.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Then you desperately need to educate yourself.

Says the Atheist???? Who are you to tell believers what is correct to them anyway?

You are free to have your opinion, but so are others too

 

[stevecanuck]

I have not made an OP about it no, Just because I don't say anything does not mean i don't have a view of what happens in the Muslim world.

Fair enough. It's just that on a debate site, it's usual to express views.

 

[stevecanuck]

Says the Atheist???? Who are you to tell believers what is correct to them anyway?

You are free to have your opinion, but so are others too

The fact that I'm an atheist has nothing to do with whether or not I can understand words. When the Qur'an says things like, "Fight those who believe not in Allah ...... (9:29)", I can figure out that that's not a good thing.

 

[KWED]

@stevecanuck what do you personally gain from making critique of Islam, The Quran, Baha'i or other religions?

@Seeker of White Light , what do you personally gain from defending Islam, etc?

Have you gotten any closer to finding peace within your heart when it comes to what other people believe?

That is not why sceptics do what they do. It is more about educating and correcting, and maybe entertaining.

 

[QuestioningMind]

But it has lapped the field several times.

Currently perhaps... but certainly not historically. And as the American Taliban continues to exert itself, given the chance they may well surpass current outrages in the future.

 

[KWED]

Who are "We"? Do you mean "You" ?

He means, "rational , educated , civilised people".
I mean, come one. Amputating a hand for theft? Flogging with 100 lashes for consensual, adult sex? Who in their right mind wouldn't oppose such barbarism?
Are you saying that you consider such things acceptable? Yikes!

 

[KWED]

Your words toward Muslims and Baha'is do rings of hate.

Hatred towards non-Muslims until they submit to Islam is a good example to follow. (Quran 60:4)

You only expose your self this time.

Fnarrr!

 

[KWED]

Yeah. But you can not pretend to be one.

You don't have to "pretend". You just have to claim to be one.

 

[KWED]

IF "disobeying Allah's Law" means the "death-penalty"
THEN all Muslims would be dead by now
Including this Ibn Kathir
Scholar or not

Hey, I don't make the rules, I just comment on them.

 

[Goldemar]

that's irrelevant to the bad scholarship of the OP but I will honour your question.

The answer is "of course not".

I see the principal purpose of the OP as critiquing the Iranian regime's passing of the death sentence on these women (on the grounds of spreading corruption on earth) and linking this to Quranic teachings on the subject. Insofar as you seem to be attacking the OP's basis for doing this, I was curious as to your motives for doing so and therefore feel my post is relevant to the OP. But perhaps I should have asked whether you feel there is any Quranic basis for the Iranian regime's sentence?

Glad to hear BTW that you don't support Iran on this.