Is a trans man really a man or a trans woman really a woman?

[Saint Frankenstein]

Everyone remembers Michael Jackson. He started singing as a young boy with dark skin and an Afro hairstyle. Later, his skin became lighter and his hairstyle changed. Did that mean he was no longer African-American? No, he just changed his outward appearance. So if a person is born male but lets his hair grow long and wears lipstick and a dress does that mean he is no longer a male? Or did he just change his outwaed appearance? Should he use the women's restroom? People who did that in the past were arrested.

Michael had vitiligo and might have underwent treatments to lighten his skin so it would be an even tone, but he was rapidly losing pigment, anyway. He never denied being black, though. Stupid comparison. I see you're continuing your perverse obsession about people in restrooms. You have a problem.

 

[Parchment]

Michael had vitiligo and might have underwent treatments to lighten his skin so it would be an even tone, but he was rapidly losing pigment, anyway.

Isn't that the guy that said that Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the world and that he wanted to look just like her? To each their own but I'd say there was a lot more going on than vitiligo.

 

[Tulipbee]

Good evidence that the Bible was invented by primitive people.
Those people didn't even know where babies come from. They believed that a male "planted his seed" in a "vessel" . They didn't grasp the concept of gametes. They were not stupid, but they were ignorant. So on subjects like this, where we know far more than they did, I ignore their opinions on the matter.
Tom

theomatics proves the bible is from your creator. dont mess with the one that invented you

 

[Tulipbee]

Wow, this post is ridiculously stupid. Oh, and the Bible says nothing of the sort. Sounds like you have the hots for trans women but feel guilty about it, so you're trying to blame the woman for your own insecurities. "They're confusing me!".

too many false statements. dont do that again

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

too many false statements. dont do that again

Same to you. Don't be a hypocrite, now.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Isn't that the guy that said that Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the world and that he wanted to look just like her? To each their own but I'd say there was a lot more going on than vitiligo.

I've never heard that before and it's irrelevant to the thread, anyway.

 

[Tulipbee]

Same to you. Don't be a hypocrite, now.

you just admitted you make false statements.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

you just admitted you make false statements.

I don't know if you're actually attracted to trans women or not. Your line about "men confusing men" was rather telling, however. But I was right about the Bible not saying what you claim it does.

 

[Parchment]

Jack Chick Tracts are always good for a cheap laugh:

 

[Father Heathen]

trans is nothing more than Halloween, everyday, 24/7. Halloween is a day to wear a mask to be someone else for a day. they want to be someone else everyday but to bible states that men should not confuse other men like that

The bible also states that you should stone people to death for wearing mixed fabrics, rotating crops, or speaking to menstruating women. It also gives instruction on how to sell your own daughter off into marriage (against their will of course, so it's basically sexual slavery.)

The whole notion that it should serve as the moral compass in a modern, civilized world will never make sense to me.

 

[columbus]

theomatics proves the bible is from your creator. dont mess with the one that invented you

I get along just fine with The Creator.
It is less impressive humans claiming to speak for Him that I tangle with.
Like you.
Tom

 

[Father Heathen]

theomatics proves the bible is from your creator. dont mess with the one that invented you

You hold your creator to such insultingly low standards if you think that the bible would've been such a being's magnum opus.

Don't you think that you "mess with the one that invented you" when you use him as a sock puppet (which is what all of your religions and holy texts do)?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Hey everyone. I am not asking this question out of a desire to offend anyone but out of a desire to learn more. I have heard many people say that a trans man is really a man and a trans woman is really a woman but this is something that I do not understand. How is it possible for a trans man to really be a man when this person's chromosomes say that this person is a woman? Also, how is it possible for a trans woman to really be a woman when this person's chromosomes say that this person is a man?

I think that some people are born with neither male nor female sexual organs or both, so it doesn't surprise me that this could be the case with emotions and gender identity. I guess when it happens there is no exact answer to the question of what they are unless the person wants to answer it a particular way.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I sometimes don't get the big deal out of people wanting a penis, vagina, or a set of boobs.

What's wrong with just being a tomboy or effeminate male?

I'd find that much more attractive than an artifically designed member through surgery or hormones. Hell, I think fake boobs on a woman is kinda nuts.

 

[Tulipbee]

I don't know if you're actually attracted to trans women or not. Your line about "men confusing men" was rather telling, however. But I was right about the Bible not saying what you claim it does.

I'm attracted to my wife. married for a very very long time. have no plans to be attracted outside my marriage.

 

[Tulipbee]

The bible also states that you should stone people to death for wearing mixed fabrics, rotating crops, or speaking to menstruating women. It also gives instruction on how to sell your own daughter off into marriage (against their will of course, so it's basically sexual slavery.)

The whole notion that it should serve as the moral compass in a modern, civilized world will never make sense to me.

have you forgotten the new testament?

 

[Tulipbee]

I get along just fine with The Creator.
It is less impressive humans claiming to speak for Him that I tangle with.
Like you.
Tom

holy spirit speaks through men

 

[Tulipbee]

You hold your creator to such insultingly low standards if you think that the bible would've been such a being's magnum opus.

Don't you think that you "mess with the one that invented you" when you use him as a sock puppet (which is what all of your religions and holy texts do)?

God still does what He wants to do me. It's up to Him about me.

 

[Wirey]

have you forgotten the new testament?

Doesn't it include instructions on how to treat your slaves, and suggest getting a sword?

 

[columbus]

holy spirit speaks through men

Yet another human claiming to speak for God
Tom