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Is America a Police state?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Police aren't even afraid to murder you in a crowded public area with dozens of cameras on you.

[youtube]B0rf2OIOxLw[/youtube]
Police Shoot Unarmed Man in the Back Execution Style in CA Local News Report - YouTube

This cop has been arrested and is standing trial for murder, but there is no one to protect you from police. Your choice is to let them murder you without resisting or resist and give them a legitimate reason to kill you.
Criminy! It does look like an execution.
At least this is one case where it will be politically impossible to prosecute the
videographers who caught the cops. But to your point, cops are very dangerous
because they're prone to violence without much accountability.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ajit Pai: The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom - WSJ.com
News organizations often disagree about what Americans need to know. MSNBC, for example, apparently believes that traffic in Fort Lee, N.J., is the crisis of our time. Fox News, on the other hand, chooses to cover the September 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi more heavily than other networks. The American people, for their part, disagree about what they want to watch.
But everyone should agree on this: The government has no place pressuring media organizations into covering certain stories.

Unfortunately, the Federal Communications Commission, where I am a commissioner, does not agree. Last May the FCC proposed an initiative to thrust the federal government into newsrooms across the country. With its "Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs," or CIN, the agency plans to send researchers to grill reporters, editors and station owners about how they decide which stories to run. A field test in Columbia, S.C., is scheduled to begin this spring.
The purpose of the CIN, according to the FCC, is to ferret out information from television and radio broadcasters about "the process by which stories are selected" and how often stations cover "critical information needs," along with "perceived station bias" and "perceived responsiveness to underserved populations."
Federal regulation of news might please Fox's foes, but a future president might decide to go after NPR & MSNBC.
 

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
Police aren't even afraid to murder you in a crowded public area with dozens of cameras on you.

[youtube]B0rf2OIOxLw[/youtube]
Police Shoot Unarmed Man in the Back Execution Style in CA Local News Report - YouTube

This cop has been arrested and is standing trial for murder, but there is no one to protect you from police. Your choice is to let them murder you without resisting or resist and give them a legitimate reason to kill you.

We need to further psychological exams on anyone wanting to be a police officer.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
CLARKSVILLE, Tenn - A high school student in Montgomery County has been suspended after school officials found a knife inside his father's car.
David Duren-Sanner should be spending his time going through college and scholarship applications this time of year.
Instead, he's wondering if he'll even be able to graduate after what hundreds of people are calling an overreaction to a mistake.
On Thursday, Duren-Sanner, a senior at Northeast High School drove his father's car to school. During a random lockdown, his car was chosen to be searched.
Duren-Sanner gave permission because he said he had nothing to hide.
His father is a commercial fisherman on the West Coast and had apparently left a fishing knife in the car. Duren-Sanner's father said it might have been wedged between one of the seats.
Duren-Sanner said he told school officials and the Sheriff's department the car was his father's and he didn't know the knife was in it.
"He's like 'it doesn't matter it was in your possession anyway,'" Duren-Sanner said.
School officials suspended him for 10 days, the maximum allowed under school policy, and then he was reprimanded to attend 90 days at an alternative school.
Peggy Duren is Duren-Sanner's grandmother whom he lives with. She said she tried explaining the knife didn't belong to her grandson, but claims school officials wouldn't listen.
"Unfortunately (the vice principal) said that's the way it is now: Guilty until proven innocent. It's part of this zero tolerance policy," she said."


Clarksville Student Suspended For Knife In Father's Car - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Police aren't even afraid to murder you in a crowded public area with dozens of cameras on you.

[youtube]B0rf2OIOxLw[/youtube]
Police Shoot Unarmed Man in the Back Execution Style in CA Local News Report - YouTube

This cop has been arrested and is standing trial for murder, but there is no one to protect you from police. Your choice is to let them murder you without resisting or resist and give them a legitimate reason to kill you.

You need to wait for any Trial to be heard, and all evidence to be given, don't you?

You did not see a thing on that film. The camera was not filming what happened before and during the gun shot.
Maybe the police officer was wrong, maybe not.

So far, you and I have no clue.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You need to wait for any Trial to be heard, and all evidence to be given, don't you?
You did not see a thing on that film. The camera was not filming what happened before and during the gun shot.
Maybe the police officer was wrong, maybe not.
So far, you and I have no clue.
We do have a clue, but I to am curious what else will come out in the trial.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
CLARKSVILLE, Tenn - A high school student in Montgomery County has been suspended after school officials found a knife inside his father's car.
David Duren-Sanner should be spending his time going through college and scholarship applications this time of year.
Instead, he's wondering if he'll even be able to graduate after what hundreds of people are calling an overreaction to a mistake.
On Thursday, Duren-Sanner, a senior at Northeast High School drove his father's car to school. During a random lockdown, his car was chosen to be searched.
Duren-Sanner gave permission because he said he had nothing to hide.
His father is a commercial fisherman on the West Coast and had apparently left a fishing knife in the car. Duren-Sanner's father said it might have been wedged between one of the seats.
Duren-Sanner said he told school officials and the Sheriff's department the car was his father's and he didn't know the knife was in it.
"He's like 'it doesn't matter it was in your possession anyway,'" Duren-Sanner said.
School officials suspended him for 10 days, the maximum allowed under school policy, and then he was reprimanded to attend 90 days at an alternative school.
Peggy Duren is Duren-Sanner's grandmother whom he lives with. She said she tried explaining the knife didn't belong to her grandson, but claims school officials wouldn't listen.
"Unfortunately (the vice principal) said that's the way it is now: Guilty until proven innocent. It's part of this zero tolerance policy," she said."


Clarksville Student Suspended For Knife In Father's Car - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports


So......... you actually believe that America is becoming a 'School State'?
What's this got to do with ' Is America a Police state?'

Questions:-
Does this man know that to enter the school premises (with a weapon) is a crime, as well as a breach of school-rules?
This man should be cautious enough, knowing that his Dad is a pro-fisherman, to be very very careful, surely?
Is it possible that this man has 'previous' with the Police? They are reported to have charged him, rather than cautioned him.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
We need to further psychological exams on anyone wanting to be a police officer.

That's a good idea.

It's a badly inaccurate science (so far), but more Psychological screening is good.
Intensive training.
Intensive testing and assessment.
Regular counselling.
Mandatory Trauma reporting and trauma therapy.
Regular refresher courses.
A really strong Internal Affairs Police-policing network.
A Federally controlled police-force assessment program. (?)


And extra funding to cover all of the above, in full. No retentions.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
SC officer shoots man reaching for cane - The Washington Post
A police officer in South Carolina shot a 70-year-old motorist who was reaching for a cane during a traffic stop because he thought the man was grabbing a rifle from the bed of his pickup truck, investigators said. The man was expected to survive.
It seems cops are trained to shoot at anyone who might pose a threat, without verifying that it's real.
Heaven help anyone walking down the street in winter with hands in their pockets....it could be they
are holding a gun! Better shoot'm all, & then investigate.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's a good idea.

It's a badly inaccurate science (so far), but more Psychological screening is good.
Intensive training.
Intensive testing and assessment.
Regular counselling.
Mandatory Trauma reporting and trauma therapy.
Regular refresher courses.
A really strong Internal Affairs Police-policing network.
A Federally controlled police-force assessment program. (?)


And extra funding to cover all of the above, in full. No retentions.
There are indeed a number of bad cops. Where I lived it took years of clearing up evidence that was intentionally mishandled and cover-ups by police to finally convict an officer who was drunk on duty and killed a motorcyclist.
In another town nearby, a cop was fired for tasing an elderly man with advanced Alzheimers, but (and I honestly have no idea how this was even possible) a judge from another county over turned the decision.
Many cops are good, many cops are bullies who hide behind a badge, and many think the law does not apply to them, and because it is a very stressful job sometimes mistakes do happen. But it's really not too hard to be arrested for resisting arrest or assault and/or battery on a police officer. And even when they are in the right, we should still know to have a better idea of what this nation is like.
 
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oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
...............police-beat-father-to-death-in-front-of-his-wife-and-daughter-steal-daughters-camera-afterwards.................

I seriously question what kind of training police are receiving today.

I started to read the 'News Report', then read two comments from site visitors...... that was enough for me. I didn't bother with the rest of it.

Here are just two comments from site visitors:-
Ace • 14 days ago
NO ONE is safe in this ******* country anymore. WHEN are we going say ENOUGH and start killing some of these pricks

Avatar
i HATE COPS Ace • 6 days ago
agreed kill them all
4 • Reply•Share ›

Now let me tell you what would probably happen in England.
1. These two site visitors above would be arrested. Yes, ARRESTED..... for incitement to commit a crime (Criminal Attempts Act 1981). Not just any little crime, but Murder.

2. The web site could well find itself being investigated for supporting and allowing such comments to be published. I also read:-
Police are trained to deceive the public for a living.
This amounts to printed lies.

The fact that anybody could be allowed to attach documents with stuff like that written in them on RF just can't be right. The above web-site article has become a part of a criminal offence, is my guess.

Who on Earth reads this rubbish?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
But it's really not too hard to be arrested for resisting arrest or assault and/or battery on a police officer.
Hi..... Shadow Wolf.

Well...... of course it's not too hard to get arrested for resisting arrest. The person has already been arrested, and is resisting that arrest, so they're going to be reported for a second offence.... resisting arrest. The person must have done something to become a suspect in the first place. OK?

I remember what I used to do when people assaulted and battered me. Assault is trying to hurt somebody or succeeding. Battery is when you've actually been struck with a blow. Now..... do you think it would be fair to arrest the scum-bag who committed either of these crimes and drag their nasty little backside into a court?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
It seems cops are trained to shoot at anyone who might pose a threat, without verifying that it's real.

Heaven help anyone walking down the street in winter with hands in their pockets....it could be they are holding a gun! Better shoot'm all, & then investigate.

This was included in the report.

“The situation is very unfortunate,” Faris said, reading from a statement at a news conference. “It does appear, at this time, that Deputy Knox’s actions were an appropriate response to what he reasonably believed to be an imminent threat to his life.”

The State Law Enforcement Division will investigate the shooting and turn its findings over to prosecutors, who will decide whether to press charges, Faris said. He said Knox, 24, has been a deputy for almost three years.

Well..... it is the USA, where mostly anybody can be in possession of a gun..... even carrying one in their pocket in, say, shopping centres! You want it this way..... you got it. Now live with it.

Are walking stick guns legal? Did his stick look 'wrong'? I once owned a .419 stick gun with a push-twist silencer attachment, long since smashed up due to new legislation about 25-30 years ago. (Side note: It was unbelievably silent when using 2" cartridges, yet unbelievably loud when using 2.5" cartridges, that is with the silencer attached).

You really should consider tightening up your firearms legislation. Really.
 
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