Is America a Police state?

[Shadow Wolf]

Prosecuting kids for being kids, for violations with no victim, for extremely restrictive laws, with unreasonably severe consequences, & doing so very selectively.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/teen-prosecuted-naked-images-himself-phone-selfies

They seriously need to chill out over these things. I think it was a couple years ago, in Indiana a high school boy got in trouble because, heaven forbid, his girlfriend gave him a blow job.
I'm going to guess that the chances are probably good that at least a few of those involved with the arrests, prosecutions, and judges in these cases are definitely hypocrites, and were doing the same thing when they were kids. They must just be jealous that instead of high quality cell phones that can instantly share pictures they had crappy Polaroids that they had to exchange in person.
And I suppose they may want to get around to banning mirrors, because god forbid a teenager see themselves naked.

 

[freethinker44]

Prosecuting kids for being kids, for violations with no victim, for extremely restrictive laws, with unreasonably severe consequences, & doing so very selectively.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/teen-prosecuted-naked-images-himself-phone-selfies

Couple that with "anything you can be arrested for is effectively something the government is willing to kill you over" and it becomes even more ridiculous. The government is willing to kill kids to protect them from taking nude pictures of themselves.

 

[freethinker44]

I can't believe she was acquitted for murdering this guy face down on the ground.

 

[Revoltingest]

Speech police....
http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-of-missouri-police-ask-students-to-report-hurtful-speech/
On the plus side, I'd expect the cops to be lackadaisical in going after perps solely for insulting someone.

 

[freethinker44]

Speech police....
http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-of-missouri-police-ask-students-to-report-hurtful-speech/
On the plus side, I'd expect the cops to be lackadaisical in going after perps solely for insulting someone.

I'm pretty sure this is a completely hollow gesture just to appease the SJWs at the university, but still, there's always the chance that some rambo cop is going to respond to it as an actual threat and someone is going to be beaten or killed because some SJW was "triggered" by something.

 

[bluegoo300]

I'm pretty sure this is a completely hollow gesture just to appease the SJWs at the university, but still, there's always the chance that some rambo cop is going to respond to it as an actual threat and someone is going to be beaten or killed because some SJW was "triggered" by something.

can I ask you do you think its easy to be a police officer, do you think split second decisions are easy? just a question, but you make it sound like you could do the job with your eyes closed, never make a mistake, and always be in control of your emotions.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm pretty sure this is a completely hollow gesture just to appease the SJWs at the university, but still, there's always the chance that some rambo cop is going to respond to it as an actual threat and someone is going to be beaten or killed because some SJW was "triggered" by something.

Keep in mind, those are campus police, which are usually more willing to do things to help. Many transsexuals even report having better experience when interacting with campus police than regular police, as they are more likely to actually look into threats, stalking, and other such things.

 

[freethinker44]

can I ask you do you think its easy to be a police officer, do you think split second decisions are easy? just a question, but you make it sound like you could do the job with you eyes closed, never make a mistake, and always be in control of you emotions.

Oh my god, you're totally right. I was so wrong this entire time. If a cop beats someone and ruins their life with trumped up charges to justify the beating, or worse kills someone because they were "investigating" someone saying something a professional victim found offensive, we should just overlook it because they have a "hard" and "dangerous" job, even if every statistic says otherwise, which it does. Thank you for opening my eyes. From this moment forward I too will become a good copsucker and accept the propaganda with pride.


In case you couldn't tell: sarcasm.

 

[bluegoo300]

Oh my god, you're totally right. I was so wrong this entire time. If a cop beats someone and ruins their life with trumped up charges to justify the beating, or worse kills someone because they were "investigating" someone saying something a professional victim found offensive, we should just overlook it because they have a "hard" and "dangerous" job, even if every statistic says otherwise, which it does. Thank you for opening my eyes. From this moment forward I too will become a good copsucker and accept the propaganda with pride.


In case you couldn't tell: sarcasm.

Really " even if every statistic says otherwise" are you kidding me right now idk what desk job you have however im pretty sure 108 coworkers of your did not die on ball point pens this year, yet that how many officers have died in 2015 on-duty. no im not saying police should justify beating however I would like to see how you handle a situation were someone is charging you with a knife and see what your split second decision is. and then have every media outlet question your decision. oh and even though your human you are never ever allowed to have a "bad day" and get angry if someone wont listen to you, or your fired and will never get hired as an officer again.

 

[David1967]

can I ask you do you think its easy to be a police officer, do you think split second decisions are easy? just a question, but you make it sound like you could do the job with your eyes closed, never make a mistake, and always be in control of your emotions.

Thank you.

 

[freethinker44]

Keep in mind, those are campus police, which are usually more willing to do things to help. Many transsexuals even report having better experience when interacting with campus police than regular police, as they are more likely to actually look into threats, stalking, and other such things.

I doubt that will help console the family of Samuel DuBose who was shot and killed by a campus police officer that "feared for his life" on him.
Campus police are still police with all the same powers and lack of accountability other police have. They're probably friendlier and more willing to help because it's such a cake job compared to other police departments. But that doesn't mean they are immune from the problems other departments have. I say it all the time, the problem isn't the few cops like this:

It's all the cops standing around watching him do this. He might be a *********, but he isn't the problem, the friendly cops that are eager to help you but not stop him are the problem.

 

[David1967]

Really " even if every statistic says otherwise" are you kidding me right now idk what desk job you have however im pretty sure 108 coworkers of your did not die on ball point pens this year, yet that how many officers have died in 2015 on-duty. no im not saying police should justify beating however I would like to see how you handle a situation were someone is charging you with a knife and see what your split second decision is. and then have every media outlet question your decision. oh and even though your human you are never ever allowed to have a "bad day" and get angry if someone wont listen to you, or your fired and will never get hired as an officer again.

Sounds like maybe you've been there?

 

[bluegoo300]

Thank you.

im an MP. yes I agree there are bad cops out there, however I think the good outweigh the bad or the job would not exist. let me just say its not easy living with every decision you make that has to be decided with in a sec. for your life or someone else's.

 

[David1967]

im an MP. yes I agree there are bad cops out there, however I think the good outweigh the bad or the job would not exist. let me just say its not easy living with every decision you make that has to be decided with in a sec. for you life or someone else's.

Brother, I agree with you.

 

[bluegoo300]

I doubt that will help console the family of Samuel DuBose who was shot and killed by a campus police officer that "feared for his life" on him.
Campus police are still police with all the same powers and lack of accountability other police have. They're probably friendlier and more willing to help because it's such a cake job compared to other police departments. But that doesn't mean they are immune from the problems other departments have. I say it all the time, the problem isn't the few cops like this:

It's all the cops standing around watching him do this. He might be a *********, but he isn't the problem, the friendly cops that are eager to help you but not stop him are the problem.

there you go you got it Police are not above the law just because we have a badge don't mean we can do what ever. that crap there is what must stop it makes us all look bad because of one **** cop.

 

[David1967]

there you go you got it Police are not above the law just because we have a badge don't mean we can do what ever. that crap there is what must stop it makes us all look bad because of one **** cop.

I know it is far less entertaining, but it is also possible to youtube cops doing good things.

 

[Robert.Evans]

oh and even though your human you are never ever allowed to have a "bad day" and get angry if someone wont listen to you, or your fired and will never get hired as an officer again.

If you are/were police, then even though you are human you cannot have a "bad day", not when you have so much power and possible a weapon. With that job goes huge responsibilty. And you certainly can't attack someone in whatever way just because they won't listen, unless you have valid reason.
And if you break a serious rule, no, you should not be reinstated again.

 

[Robert.Evans]

that crap there is what must stop it makes us all look bad because of one **** cop.

It does show a poor system or hiring, disciplining and training though.... which in that sense does look bad for all of you, as you should report such things. if you did, you wouldn't get so many then, would you.

 

[bluegoo300]

If you are/were police, then even though you are human you cannot have a "bad day", not when you have so much power and possible a weapon. With that job goes huge responsibilty. And you certainly can't attack someone in whatever way just because they won't listen, unless you have valid reason.
And if you break a serious rule, no, you should not be reinstated again.

yes I 100% agree with you what im saying is for example you stop someone for a traffic violation and ask for DL and proof of INS and they say **** You and refuse to cooperate you can not even raise your voice at them or you risk getting fired. I wish people would just cooperate we are here to protect and serve not harass and beat. second its very simple if you commit a crime you do the time no matter if your an officer or not.

 

[bluegoo300]

It does show a poor system or hiring, disciplining and training though.... which in that sense does look bad for all of you, as you should report such things. if you did, you wouldn't get so many then, would you.

it sounds that simple on paper however look at it from this perspective. we are given great training on almost all situations however situations under stress are hard to do in a training environment you never know how someone is going to react in a certain situation even if they have trained for it for years. real life is deferent then training. what we need is more stress related training.