Is America a Police state?

[Revoltingest]

America has got what they deserve, the amount of crime there is there, needs a great amount of policing, so cut down on your crime and you won't need to worry.

It's far from being so simple.
People cannot decide to commit less crime.
First, we should address other problems.
A couple.....
- Cops are committing much of our crime.
- Many victimless crimes could be made legal, which would end persecution of those 'perps', & conserve resources for fighting serious crimes.

 

[psychoslice]

It's far from being so simple.
People cannot decide to commit less crime.
First, we should address other problems.
A couple.....
- Cops are committing much of our crime.
- Many victimless crimes could be made legal, which would end persecution of those 'perps', & conserve resources for fighting serious crimes.

Yes of course its not as easy as I made it to be, but that is what it boils down to, cops or the general public, but I don't think it will ever change, its human nature.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If a you look a cop in the eye, you'll be ticketed.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/30/us/eye-contact-traffic-stop-ohio-police-officer/index.html

Just imagine the stories that will be told in history class: the laws became so repressive that police arrested people for recording them, and even if you literally made eye contact. We cheered and celebrated gay marriage, but there was a risk the cops might kill you. If the West was Wild, I really want to know what they're going to call today's time?

 

[Revoltingest]

Just imagine the stories that will be told in history class: the laws became so repressive that police arrested people for recording them, and even if you literally made eye contact. We cheered and celebrated gay marriage, but there was a risk the cops might kill you. If the West was Wild, I really want to know what they're going to call today's time?

The very under control Americastan.

 

[Mycroft]

While we don't really fit the word "totalitarian", that element in our government is definitely not the result of a dictatorship.

Which is why it's such a success. It's too easy to rebel against something when you're fully aware that it's a dictatorship.

We freely elect & re-elect the people who send us in that direction.

You elect someone from a given choice of candidates from a given choice of parties. But that system is like a house of cards, each card needs the other to keep itself propped up. That aside, though, whoever you vote for their fundamental politics are the same because your country is no longer ruled by politicians or a democratic system. It's ruled by corporations and lobbyists who dictate policy based on their agendas.

 

[Underhill]

The answer is obvious: Pacifism.

So police should be pacifist? That might make doing their job a challenge.

 

[Revoltingest]

You elect someone from a given choice of candidates from a given choice of parties. But that system is like a house of cards, each card needs the other to keep itself propped up. That aside, though, whoever you vote for their fundamental politics are the same because your country is no longer ruled by politicians or a democratic system. It's ruled by corporations and lobbyists who dictate policy based on their agendas.

In the past, back room deals would determine who headed a party's ticket.
Now, it's done in primary elections for the Big Two. The voters are in the
driver's seat. Corporations can influence things by funding advertising, but
that is mere advocacy. We voters still are in total control.

What's really going on is that we don't like our choices, so we (not me) must
find a boogeyman to blame so that we avoid responsibility for our choices.
Remember that bot Bush & Obama were re-elected for continuing Bush's Agenda.
So despite all the public complaining about what they did, the voters really wanted
it more than the alternatives, eg, prosperity, peace, transparency in government.

 

[Apex]

America has got what they deserve, the amount of crime there is there, needs a great amount of policing, so cut down on your crime and you won't need to worry.

US crime has been steadily dropping for over two decades.

 

[psychoslice]

US crime has been steadily dropping for over two decades.

Ha, that's hard to believe.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ha, that's hard to believe.

It really has been. Some believe it may have been an unknown and unforeseen effect of abortion, because the crime began to decrease around the time those unborn babies would have become late teens/young adults, and the same trend was seen in states that legalized abortion ahead of Roe v Wade before the national decrease was seen.

 

[psychoslice]

It really has been. Some believe it may have been an unknown and unforeseen effect of abortion, because the crime began to decrease around the time those unborn babies would have become late teens/young adults, and the same trend was seen in states that legalized abortion ahead of Roe v Wade before the national decrease was seen.

I see, I think the police have done a lot of service to that theory also if its true.

 

[Apex]

I see, I think the police have done a lot of service to that theory also if its true.

Actually, the police have gotten far more violent and militarized in that time.

 

[Apex]

Ha, that's hard to believe.

How is it hard to believe? What are you basing your judgement on, the media?

 

[psychoslice]

Actually, the police have gotten far more violent and militarized in that time.

Yea, maybe, but maybe not.

 

[psychoslice]

How is it hard to believe? What are you basing your judgement on, the media?

Yea I suppose the media, but then how would we all know what is going on, were not all psychic lol.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I see, I think the police have done a lot of service to that theory also if its true.

A massive chunk of police effort and resources are spent solely on enforcing drug laws here. We actually have a higher inmate rate than Russia and China, and drugs is a major reason why.

 

[psychoslice]

A massive chunk of police effort and resources are spent solely on enforcing drug laws here. We actually have a higher inmate rate than Russia and China, and drugs is a major reason why.

I see, but don't we need the police to stop theses drugs that are stuffing up the country, people do steal for their money to buy that crap you know.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I see, but don't we need the police to stop theses drugs that are stuffing up the country, people do steal for their money to buy that crap you know.

In America we just throw drug addicts in jail or prison. And when they are let out, it's often into the same circumstances that lead to their drug abuse, putting them back into a nasty cycle. We also throw a ton of people in jail for pot, which to not send some people to criminal behaviors to fund.

 

[psychoslice]

In America we just throw drug addicts in jail or prison. And when they are let out, it's often into the same circumstances that lead to their drug abuse, putting them back into a nasty cycle. We also throw a ton of people in jail for pot, which to not send some people to criminal behaviors to fund.

Yea, you would think they would have some sort drug program in the jail, but then would they take any notice of that, if we let everyone take drugs, what in the world would the country come to, so its a catch 22 I suppose ?.

 

[Revoltingest]

Prosecuting kids for being kids, for violations with no victim, for extremely restrictive laws, with unreasonably severe consequences, & doing so very selectively.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/teen-prosecuted-naked-images-himself-phone-selfies