Is anti-theism (satanism) better than atheism?

[questfortruth]

What do you mean by "I am against Christianity"?

 

[Estro Felino]

Let us be blunt, please.
There are countless lodges, sects which vow to destroy Christianity from within, or from the outside.
It is a fact. Ascertained judicially in some countries.
There are people who worship Satan in order to harm people, particularly Christians.

In order to be recognized juridically, a religion is supposed to demonstrate judicially that its purpose is a positive intervention in the world, and not a negative intervention in the world.
Otherwise there would be no penal law, no criminal codes, and so on...if all that's evil is tolerable.

 

[Altfish]

What do you mean by "I am against Christianity"?

I am not a Pagan, but I am not against Paganism...I am happy people can practice Paganism.

I wasn't meaning me personally; it was part of my definition of antichristian.
I am not against Christianity, just the influence and privileges of Christianity
However, some religions I am against; Scientology comes to mind, as well as the religious groups (including some Christian sects) that have hateful doctrines, especially against homosexuals and the likes

 

[questfortruth]

against homosexuals

what is your position in relation to another sex-minorities, e.g. rapists, animal-lovers?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I am producing more anti-theists than Christians from atheists.
But it is a considerable improvement to make an anti-theist from an atheist. The anti-theist is defined as one who knows all about God but fights Him. So, he is on satan's side: "enemy of my enemy is my friend." Anti-theist. A Christian is theist. Hence Anti-theist is the same as Anti-Christian, shortly: Antichrist. You suggesting that Biblical Antichrist is not aware of God's existence?

Atheists are lukewarm, aren't they? Then God does not like lukewarm people:
"I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!"
Revelation 3:15.

Let me do it again. According to Scientific American,
the Big Bang is absent:
JWST’s First Glimpses of Early Galaxies Could Break Cosmology
And according to Creationism by Kent Hovind, the Big Bang is absent. I see a clear connection.

The question doesn't make sense. atheists and anti-theists don't believe in any sort of deity or magical being, and so cannot possibly be Satanists.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Anti-theism is not satanism.

Agree

In fact, most of the people calling themselves atheists are anti-theists.

Disagree

Satanist are theists. Just of a different kind of 'god'.

Many Satanists are atheists. There are theistic Satanists who worship a literal Satan, but that's not the majority.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The question doesn't make sense. atheists and anti-theists don't believe in any sort of deity or magical being, and so cannot possibly be Satanists.

Majority of Satanists are atheists.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

what is your position in relation to another sex-minorities, e.g. rapists, animal-lovers?

My position is that they are not getting informed consent from their victims, and are therefore scum.

Clear enough?

It has no correlation with consensual homosexual sexual activity.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Atheists are lukewarm, aren't they? Then God does not like lukewarm people:

Yeah. You think your God is going to punish us for all eternity, throw things out like Pascal's Wager, and we're lukewarm.

Most of us have pushed back on cultural or familial pressure. There's nothing 'lukewarm' about my beliefs. They just don't include your God. Thankfully.

 

[PureX]

Majority of Satanists are atheists.

Then what is "satan" to them?

 

[questfortruth]

It has no correlation with consensual homosexual sexual activity.

Are you sure that there is no single sexual minority that 1. is consensual, 2. disgusting? What about exhibitionists?

 

[questfortruth]

Then what is "satan" to them?

Invisible friend, who has murdered just 10 people and got not punished for it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Majority of Satanists are atheists.

I find that rather difficult to fathom, since Satan is supposed to be an angel, cast out of heaven. Angelic beings are spiritual beings believed to act as an attendants, agents, or messengers of God. How one can believe in "messengers of God" without believing in God is quite beyond me.

 

[questfortruth]

I find that rather difficult to fathom, since Satan is supposed to be an angel, cast out of heaven. Angelic beings are spiritual beings believed to act as an attendants, agents, or messengers of God. How one can believe in "messengers of God" without believing in God is quite beyond me.

It said mod, don't question mods.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It said mod, don't question mods.

Why wouldn't he question me just because I'm a mod? That's rubbish.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Are you sure that there is no single sexual minority that 1. is consensual, 2. disgusting? What about exhibitionists?

I didn't claim there was no single sexual minority that is consensual and disgusting. I'd find scat pretty disgusting.
What I said is, comparing homosexuality to non-consensual sex acts in the way you did is wrong. There is no correlation.

 

[icehorse]

Anti-theist. A Christian is theist. Hence Anti-theist is the same as Anti-Christian, shortly: Antichrist. You suggesting that Biblical Antichrist is not aware of God's existence?

I'm an anti-theist. What @Altfish said in post #5 is the correct definition for anti-theism.

I don't fight against god, because I don't believe there is a god. I fight against religion, which is a man-made idea.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Then what is "satan" to them?

A counter-culture symbol.
The whole thing seems a little reactionary to me, to be honest, so I'm not sure I'm the best person to explain. But LeVeyan Satanism (eg. Church of Satan, First Satanic Church) is non-theistic. There are theistic Satanists too, with examples being Luciferianists (who see Satan as either a positive force, or the true God), O9A (neo-nazi links), or Setianism (who often prefer not to be identified as Satanists at all, but are LHP).

 

[VoidCat]

I find that rather difficult to fathom, since Satan is supposed to be an angel, cast out of heaven. Angelic beings are spiritual beings believed to act as an attendants, agents, or messengers of God. How one can believe in "messengers of God" without believing in God is quite beyond me.

They don't. They view him as a symbol an archetype not see him as a literal being. If I knew you in person I'd lend you my Satanic Bible im not a laveyan satanist but i have one and that's one group that follows atheistic satanism. It's also the only group that follows the laveyan Satanic Bible

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I find that rather difficult to fathom, since Satan is supposed to be an angel, cast out of heaven. Angelic beings are spiritual beings believed to act as an attendants, agents, or messengers of God. How one can believe in "messengers of God" without believing in God is quite beyond me.

LaVeyan Satanists view them as symbolic, rather than literal.
Luciferianists and Setians believe in Satan literally (or Set), but there is some variation in what they see his role as. Setians commonly believe Set is a monotheistic God, I think, whereas Luciferianists fall more towards traditional Christian beliefs, but see Satan as a positive force.

I'm far from an expert. Far, far, far from it.
Just picked up a few things from here over the years.