That's the great thing -- when you make statements like that you don't have to prove anything.
I'll not follow your lead.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-06-08.html
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Is any former Bernie voter going Trump just to stop Hillary?
- Thread starter Mindmaster
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That's the great thing -- when you make statements like that you don't have to prove anything.
I'll not follow your lead.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-06-08.html
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Or, it could be assumed that people are following the campaign making it common knowledge that Trump is a hater, thus negating the requirement for sources.
But, since you asked:
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, you don't hear his words of religious and racial bigotry, such as what even Paul Ryan said in regards to Trump? If you can't hear and understand the implications of what he has continuously been saying, then maybe it's time for you to do some self-examination. And then you link me to Ann Coulter as if that somehow that will impress me?
Voting Trumpety to keep the Hildabeast's finger off the lever for starting more wars.
So, you don't hear his words of religious and racial bigotry, such as what even Paul Ryan said in regards to Trump? If you can't hear and understand the implications of what he has continuously been saying, then maybe it's time for you to do some self-examination. And then you link me to Ann Coulter as if that somehow that will impress me?
This is just a genetic fallacy in action. It doesn't matter who makes the claim, it has absolutely no bearing. Fine, you don't want to listen to the other side of the conversation but don't try to truss it up as being superior or valid when it is just being ignorant.
If the Bilderberg group fears Trump that is the damn #1 reason to vote him.
If leftist-fascists hate Trump, that is the #2 reason to vote him. They are trying to destroy individualism and freedom of choice, keep people poor, racially divided. and culturally screwed up.
Draka
Wonder Woman
I think many people aren't taking what is going on on the other side into account. So concerned with voting for the "lesser evil" to keep the "greater evil" from attaining office many are not paying attention to what is really happening. Both sides are split. The entirety of the Republican party is certainly not behind Trump and many are coming out and saying they will vote Libertarian. Meanwhile, the Dems are split and many on that side are filtering to the Green party. It really isn't an either/or thing in regards to Trump and Clinton. I think this election will show even more variation in the results than we have ever seen before. People are getting sick of the "lesser evil" voting each and every time. And this election, between Dems and Pubs, that is certainly what it boils down to. I will vote for neither. I will vote my conscience. For who I want as president. That is not Clinton, not Trump, not even Bernie. Both those parties can sit and spin for all I care.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I have listened to the "other side" continuously for many months now, and I do think I know bigotry when I hear it. The fact that either you can't hear it or that you just don't care about it says a lot about you.
I was involved for a great many years in various civil rights movements, and the position that Trump and you take makes me sick to my stomach. Here we have made so much progress, and now the likes of both you, Trump, and all too many others, want to send us back to the glorious days when prejudice and bigotry dominated the American scene. The reason why you can't see it is because that's obviously where you're coming from.
How would it feel if you were on the receiving end of Trump's bigotry? But as long as it's against others, it really doesn't bother you at all, right?
I don't have a "side" I just have a problem with parties that exploit people based on their ignorance, push racial divides, and want to create a big communistic nanny state. I know how to take care of myself and don't need to be minded like an infant. Trump is the only choice for anyone that values liberty, freedom, and doesn't want everyone to have to live as a serf. The establishment hates his guts, as if that doesn't prove the damn point completely.
Voting for Hillary is voting for the slave masters. It's really that simple.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Just wow. The blinders are on this one really tight. Large blinders. Enormous blinders.
Oh, and to kind of quote a tweet I saw the other day...Since Bernie isn't going to be the Dem candidate I'll vote for Trump...and since the store is out of my favorite beer I'll just drink bleach.
Oh, and to kind of quote a tweet I saw the other day...Since Bernie isn't going to be the Dem candidate I'll vote for Trump...and since the store is out of my favorite beer I'll just drink bleach.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Funny how Trump poses a threat to my liberty and freedom, as well as the liberty and freedom of millions more.
It's hard to walk the line, but I won't be the one whining like this if it doesn't go my way. Voting Democrat is the course of least possible resistance, and you know what -- some people are just that way,: complacent, disinterested, on the dole, afraid, or whatever. But, I think it is better to ask yourself why it is easier to be a Democrat and go with all the propaganda from the media before you do. There are reasons they say the things they do, and it has nothing to do with a net positive outcome for any of us. Half of you don't vote according to issues or platforms, and just whether they are black, white, a socialist, or a woman. Most people who vote Trump have to find points in his actual platform, because as a person he's pretty damn abrasive. But, just because he's abrasive doesn't mean he's not right.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Dude, I'm not a Democrat first off. Second, I'm not whining. Third, people who vote for Trump have to be willing to ignore about 90% of what comes oozing out of his mouth. That's a huge amount of willful ignorance right there. Even a large chunk, maybe even more than half, of actual Republicans don't support him. He has split the party just as effectively as the Sanders/Clinton showdown. Both parties are in a tailspin due to shotty candidates and ignorant voters. Media hype has driven both parties' paths this time around. Resoundingly so. Trump sucks, Clinton sucks (albeit not quite as much as Trump) and the voters are chasing their own tails which have been pinned there by mass media. It's a circus through and through.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Or, you could vote Republican even though the Republican party bitterly and viciously fights against your rights and in a number of ways says they hate you. Why would a black person vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans saying young black men are thugs? Why would a homosexual vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans who are saying homosexuals are like pedophiles are going to destroy society? Why would a Mexican vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans saying Mexicans are destroying the economy? Why would a transsexual vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans saying they are sexual predators and they are demented perverts? Why would a scientist vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans who say "it's just a theory" and that "science mumbo-jumbo" doesn't make any sense and it contradicts their religion? Why would a woman vote Republican when it's mostly Republicans who are trying to send men to control women's reproductive rights?
For many, voting Republican is nothing more than metaphorically shooting themselves in the foot.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
It's a two party system. If you are not voting Clinton, you are voting Trump, and vice versa. So instead of writing in Bernie you might as well just check the Trump box because that's who you really voted for.
vaguelyhumanoid
Active Member
If you were a Bernie supporter and you're voting Trump, you weren't real. Are you just easily swayed by flashy rhetoric? Do you really think a fvcking billionaire CEO is some kind of scrappy populist?
Pretty sure this isn't the Icelandic Commonwealth. Maybe you live on Iroquois territory? idk which great democracy you're talking about.
Pretty sure this isn't the Icelandic Commonwealth. Maybe you live on Iroquois territory? idk which great democracy you're talking about.
Oh, really?
I think those who vote for Hillary must:
- Ignore her record, or be in favor of more devastating needles wars.
- Pretend her lack of accomplishment is actually success.
- Believe that they really will go to Hell if the don't vote for the woman....to make history, you know.
- Think Bill really classed up the White House.
- Like crony capitalist style corruption.
- Wear bland pant suits, & want a prez who will make it feel stylish.
So there....take that!
First Baseman
Retired athlete
The people will make Hillary our next president. And may God have mercy on us.