Is anyone here actually a "good person"?

[Father Heathen]

There is another option, that none of us are good people.

But with fundamentalist christians around the rest of us at least look good in comparison.

 

[Father Heathen]

Those shifty eyes suggest otherwise.

He's just being wary.

 

[9Westy9]

The Good Person Test
I found this quite amusing xD

 

[Father Heathen]

The Good Person Test
I found this quite amusing xD

It's funny because it implies that anger and sexual attraction, two things that are completely normal and natural, are "bad'. Why would god expect us to repress the way he created us?

 

[Me Myself]

It's funny because it implies that anger and sexual attraction, two things that are completely normal and natural, are "bad'. Why would god expect us to repress the way he created us?

Well, to be fair it is also "natural" for us to be "bad" (cruel, vengeful, etc).

Not that I beleive sex is bad BTW.

 

[9Westy9]

It's funny because it implies that anger and sexual attraction, two things that are completely normal and natural, are "bad'. Why would god expect us to repress the way he created us?

Exactly. It infers that uncontrollable emotion is 'evil'.

 

[Erebus]

The Good Person Test
I found this quite amusing xD

took the test twice. The first time I was honest and was told I'm a "thieving, adulterous, murderous blasphemer". The second time I claimed not to have done anything it listed and was told "Well God still thinks you're a sinner!"

Very funny

 

[9Westy9]

took the test twice. The first time I was honest and was told I'm a "thieving, adulterous, murderous blasphemer". The second time I claimed not to have done anything it listed and was told "Well God still thinks you're a sinner!"

Very funny

And to think that I once thought like this

 

[Antibush5]

To be truely good, is a great achievement in life, I have yet to claim this trophy.

 

[crocusj]

To be truely good, is a great achievement in life, I have yet to claim this trophy.

Possibly because the trophy should be presented by others...

 

[Erebus]

And to think that I once thought like this

Same here

 

[crocusj]

I do think that most, if not all, strive to be good. Sometimes we can sit there all smug and think "how good am I". But, in the wee small hours, when we wake up in a sweat with the understanding that not all we thought was "good" actually was, particularly when some of our actions might adversely affect someone we don't actually care about. We assuage this by maintaining that generallywe are good people. And why not? We are only human. I suppose it could be argued that if your religion/god dictates what is good or bad then that burden is removed and you will be judged by god and not your peers but that is not much consolation to those your "goodness" has trampled underfoot.

 

[Me Myself]

I do think that most, if not all, strive to be good. Sometimes we can sit there all smug and think "how good am I". But, in the wee small hours, when we wake up in a sweat with the understanding that not all we thought was "good" actually was, particularly when some of our actions might adversely affect someone we don't actually care about. We assuage this by maintaining that generallywe are good people. And why not? We are only human. I suppose it could be argued that if your religion/god dictates what is good or bad then that burden is removed and you will be judged by god and not your peers but that is not much consolation to those your "goodness" has trampled underfoot.

If they are feeling remorsefull about it they are literally sinning according to the bible.

If God wasn´t going to be able to love me, he wouldn´t have created me in the first place. If God loves me, then I am good enough.

It´s not like He can say he didn´t know what he was getting himelf into

 

[freethinker44]

The Good Person Test
I found this quite amusing xD

I'm going to be honest. I thought this test was a little biased. Just a little though.

 

[9Westy9]

I'm going to be honest. I thought this test was a little biased. Just a little though.

really? I thought it was a very well thought out application. I mean the way it leads you to the same page no matter what you do was, in my opinion, pure genius. I can only hope that the creator of this amazing quiz has more in teh process.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

I'm amazed how many people here think they are good at math. Because by the standards I use, anyone who has ever even once made a mistake at math cannot be called good at math.

You can set standards so high that only the village idiot will agree with you they are reasonable standards.

The difference between making mistakes on math problems and doing evil is that one is a crime and the other isn't. One person is simply an imperfect mathematician the other is a criminal. And our smallest sins are incomparably greater to anything like a speeding violation. If we all look into our hearts we'll see that there's at least one person out there that we don't love like we should. We'll see that there's at least somebody in our heart who we hold a grudge against thereby inhibiting our ability to love them.

 

[9Westy9]

The difference between making mistakes on math problems and doing evil is that one is a crime and the other isn't. One person is simply an imperfect mathematician the other is a criminal. And our smallest sins are incomparably greater to anything like a speeding violation. If we all look into our hearts we'll see that there's at least one person out there that we don't love like we should. We'll see that there's at least somebody in our heart who we hold a grudge against thereby inhibiting our ability to love them.

I think you're missing his point. His point, as far as I can tell, is that God' standard of a 'good person' is so high that it's unreasonable.

 

[Sunstone]

The difference between making mistakes on math problems and doing evil is that one is a crime and the other isn't. One person is simply an imperfect mathematician the other is a criminal. And our smallest sins are incomparably greater to anything like a speeding violation. If we all look into our hearts we'll see that there's at least one person out there that we don't love like we should. We'll see that there's at least somebody in our heart who we hold a grudge against thereby inhibiting our ability to love them.

Jeebers! Talk about avoiding the issue. Tell you what... get back to me when you're ready to stay on point.

 

[Puddle Duck]

At the end of my day, when I close my eyes and think back, if I am happy with how I acted and treated people for that day, than I am "good". I do not require other people to examine my actions under a microscope to determine if they "think" I am good or bad. That would be like trying to live up to someone else's expectations of what a "good person" is.

Namaste

Puddle Duck

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

Let me preface by saying that I am not a good person by the standards I use which is one who does not ever do evil. I'm amazed at how many people here actually feel like they deserve the label of a "righteous and good person." The implication is that if Heaven is real then these people feel they deserve to get in on their own merit. What exactly happened to convince anyone that they are something special when it comes to morality? Where do people draw the line between a "good person" and a "bad person"?

I don't feel like I can call myself good or bad, since I cannot be the observer of my own deeds, plus I think good is kinda subjective anyhow